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Who are more moral? Men or women?
#11
RE: Who are more moral? Men or women?


I guess the sex of a person doesn't mean they are more moral.

Also it may be that a man or a woman has been more moral than the other some time.
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#12
RE: Who are more moral? Men or women?
While its quite easy to jump on the faulty logic that mens morals > womens morals because GOD there is something to be said for it.

However, its clearly the wrong way around. Men are far more likely to commit crime than women.
Sociologists have known it for a long long time, crime and deviance is far more likely in men than women.

Rather than any physical differences (although I wouldn't rule it out), men are socialised towards risk, toughness and physicality. Lots of interesting studies on the matter.

So the question is; all the evidence points towards men being more immoral than women....... whats your evidence for the opposite?

Oh.. Bible plus Anecdote equals Fact. How could it possibly be wrong.
Self-authenticating private evidence is useless, because it is indistinguishable from the illusion of it. ― Kel, Kelosophy Blog

If you’re going to watch tele, you should watch Scooby Doo. That show was so cool because every time there’s a church with a ghoul, or a ghost in a school. They looked beneath the mask and what was inside?
The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic.
― Tim Minchin, Storm
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#13
RE: Who are more moral? Men or women?
(April 13, 2012 at 4:36 am)NoMoreFaith Wrote: While its quite easy to jump on the faulty logic that mens morals > womens morals because GOD there is something to be said for it.

However, its clearly the wrong way around. Men are far more likely to commit crime than women.
Sociologists have known it for a long long time, crime and deviance is far more likely in men than women.

Rather than any physical differences (although I wouldn't rule it out), men are socialised towards risk, toughness and physicality. Lots of interesting studies on the matter.

So the question is; all the evidence points towards men being more immoral than women....... whats your evidence for the opposite?

Oh.. Bible plus Anecdote equals Fact. How could it possibly be wrong.



I guess I can only say you aren't competent in reading.
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#14
RE: Who are more moral? Men or women?
(April 13, 2012 at 5:13 am)Thomas Kelly Wrote: I guess I can only say you aren't competent in reading.

Awww cute, ad hominem. Now if you're done writing on the forum in big crayons, maybe you'd like to interject an intelligent opinion.

The traditional view is that women were put in a state of punishment for the original sin. The christian faith has perpetrated some of the worst denigration of women throughout history.
Obvious bollocks, as the OP points out, even via scripture.

Are you deliberately dense?

EDIT: Arguments that morality is equivalent between the sexes does defy the statistics, but the reasoning is unlikely to be purely physical, but in terms of social upbringing.

Self-authenticating private evidence is useless, because it is indistinguishable from the illusion of it. ― Kel, Kelosophy Blog

If you’re going to watch tele, you should watch Scooby Doo. That show was so cool because every time there’s a church with a ghoul, or a ghost in a school. They looked beneath the mask and what was inside?
The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic.
― Tim Minchin, Storm
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#15
RE: Who are more moral? Men or women?
(April 13, 2012 at 5:35 am)NoMoreFaith Wrote:
(April 13, 2012 at 5:13 am)Thomas Kelly Wrote: I guess I can only say you aren't competent in reading.

Awww cute, ad hominem. Now if you're done writing on the forum in big crayons, maybe you'd like to interject an intelligent opinion.

The traditional view is that women were put in a state of punishment for the original sin. The christian faith has perpetrated some of the worst denigration of women throughout history.
Obvious bollocks, as the OP points out, even via scripture.

Are you deliberately dense?




I guess you lack other skills aswell. Maybe thats as much as I can tell you.


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#16
RE: Who are more moral? Men or women?
(April 13, 2012 at 5:42 am)Thomas Kelly Wrote: I guess you lack other skills aswell. Maybe thats as much as I can tell you.

So instead of a rebuttal that the christian faith has needlessly subjugated women, on flimsy anecdotal and biblical reasoning. You resort to slinging insults without reasoning on why you think so.

Religion is a tool, it is used as an instrument in coopting women into agreeing with their own subordination.

If you can't respond, why bother scribbling in crayon?
Self-authenticating private evidence is useless, because it is indistinguishable from the illusion of it. ― Kel, Kelosophy Blog

If you’re going to watch tele, you should watch Scooby Doo. That show was so cool because every time there’s a church with a ghoul, or a ghost in a school. They looked beneath the mask and what was inside?
The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic.
― Tim Minchin, Storm
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#17
RE: Who are more moral? Men or women?
(April 13, 2012 at 5:59 am)NoMoreFaith Wrote:
(April 13, 2012 at 5:42 am)Thomas Kelly Wrote: I guess you lack other skills aswell. Maybe thats as much as I can tell you.

So instead of a rebuttal that the christian faith has needlessly subjugated women, on flimsy anecdotal and biblical reasoning. You resort to slinging insults without reasoning on why you think so.

Religion is a tool, it is used as an instrument in coopting women into agreeing with their own subordination.

If you can't respond, why bother scribbling in crayon?




I guess I have enough to prove you wrong also I choose not to.

I guess you have proven again you lack what is needed.
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#18
RE: Who are more moral? Men or women?
(April 13, 2012 at 6:11 am)Thomas Kelly Wrote: I guess I have enough to prove you wrong also I choose not to.

Go For It Bitch. Big Grin

Quote:I guess you have proven again you lack what is needed.

By all means, educate me. But we both know your short crayon posts simply represent a failure to understand the issue at hand, being that of the misrepresentation of Genesis to subjugate women unfairly, by accusing them of inferior moral fibre.

The fact you are unable to articulate or voice your opinion, simply lends weight to the idea you have nothing. This isn't argumentum ad silencio, because you have stated you have a refutation in hand but refuse to present it.

If you aren't going to contribute to the forum, then why are you here?

I've never ignored someone before, but you seem like a prime candidate to be my first, merely because all you do is waste space.
Self-authenticating private evidence is useless, because it is indistinguishable from the illusion of it. ― Kel, Kelosophy Blog

If you’re going to watch tele, you should watch Scooby Doo. That show was so cool because every time there’s a church with a ghoul, or a ghost in a school. They looked beneath the mask and what was inside?
The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic.
― Tim Minchin, Storm
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#19
RE: Who are more moral? Men or women?
(April 13, 2012 at 6:28 am)NoMoreFaith Wrote:
(April 13, 2012 at 6:11 am)Thomas Kelly Wrote: I guess I have enough to prove you wrong also I choose not to.

Go For It Bitch. Big Grin

Quote:I guess you have proven again you lack what is needed.

By all means, educate me. But we both know your short crayon posts simply represent a failure to understand the issue at hand, being that of the misrepresentation of Genesis to subjugate women unfairly, by accusing them of inferior moral fibre.

The fact you are unable to articulate or voice your opinion, simply lends weight to the idea you have nothing. This isn't argumentum ad silencio, because you have stated you have a refutation in hand but refuse to present it.

If you aren't going to contribute to the forum, then why are you here?

I've never ignored someone before, but you seem like a prime candidate to be my first, merely because all you do is waste space.





I guess this has shown I must stop speaking to you and keep my strength for somebody else.
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#20
RE: Who are more moral? Men or women?
(April 13, 2012 at 6:49 am)Thomas Kelly Wrote: I guess this has shown I must stop speaking to you and keep my strength for somebody else.

Somebody who won't hand you your ill defined, barely considered opinions, neatly chopped up and skewered back to you on a plate?

Around here?

Let me know how you get on with that.
Self-authenticating private evidence is useless, because it is indistinguishable from the illusion of it. ― Kel, Kelosophy Blog

If you’re going to watch tele, you should watch Scooby Doo. That show was so cool because every time there’s a church with a ghoul, or a ghost in a school. They looked beneath the mask and what was inside?
The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic.
― Tim Minchin, Storm
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