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RE: Old Testament & Christian Morality
March 23, 2012 at 12:17 am
(March 23, 2012 at 12:11 am)Minimalist Wrote: (March 22, 2012 at 10:01 pm)LittleMissAwesome Wrote: I have heard that the new testament replaced the old testament. That is why it doesn't apply. Not sure where that idea comes from.
Jesus disagrees with you but who knows. Perhaps you are right.
It comes from people who want to try and disown all the awful things that were written in the old testament. It is included in the bible for a reason.
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RE: Old Testament & Christian Morality
March 23, 2012 at 12:26 am
Quote:No, the word is mashiyach (מָשִׁיחַ ) It can mean any number of things depending on the context.
1) anointed, anointed one
a) of the Messiah, Messianic prince
b) of the king of Israel
c) of the high priest of Israel
d) of Cyrus
e) of the patriarchs as anointed kings
I love it when xtian fuckheads try to tell Jews how to be Jews!
Jesus would have been a jew if he'd existed at all.
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RE: Old Testament & Christian Morality
March 23, 2012 at 12:59 am
(This post was last modified: March 23, 2012 at 1:00 am by Drich.)
(March 23, 2012 at 12:26 am)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:No, the word is mashiyach (מָשִׁיחַ ) It can mean any number of things depending on the context.
1) anointed, anointed one
a) of the Messiah, Messianic prince
b) of the king of Israel
c) of the high priest of Israel
d) of Cyrus
e) of the patriarchs as anointed kings
I love it when xtian fuckheads try to tell Jews how to be Jews!
Jesus would have been a jew if he'd existed at all.
Yeah, that is kinda the point of the JEWISH GENELOGY (That word means family tree) in Matthew And Luke. You can not fully know Christ unless you know the ins and outs of Judaism.
(March 23, 2012 at 12:17 am)mediamogul Wrote: (March 23, 2012 at 12:11 am)Minimalist Wrote: (March 22, 2012 at 10:01 pm)LittleMissAwesome Wrote: I have heard that the new testament replaced the old testament. That is why it doesn't apply. Not sure where that idea comes from.
Jesus disagrees with you but who knows. Perhaps you are right.
It comes from people who want to try and disown all the awful things that were written in the old testament. It is included in the bible for a reason.
What awful things?
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RE: Old Testament & Christian Morality
March 23, 2012 at 1:22 am
Quote:Matthew And Luke.
Except they disagree.
Another of those contradictions which jesus freaks insist are not contradictions at all.
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RE: Old Testament & Christian Morality
March 23, 2012 at 1:26 am
(This post was last modified: March 23, 2012 at 1:32 am by Drich.)
(March 23, 2012 at 12:00 am)padraic Wrote: Quote:The term is Bar (Son of) David
Quote:It's either, you moron. 'Bar' and 'ben" and BOTH mean 'son'.
In Arabic it's 'bin'; Hence 'Yeshua bar/ben David'' becomes "Esa bin Daoud"
My mistake.
Quote:He was anointed By the Holy Spirit at the time of His baptism.
The word 'annointed' is literal.
Which is what Litterally happened at His baptism.
Quote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messiah
:)
Quote:Really don't know why I bother,it's like trying to communicate with the dead.
because you think you have an oppertunity to humiliate me.
Perhaps the Hebrew lexicon I cut and pasted from was some how wrong where your wiki post was magically more accurate.
You do know what a lexicon is right?
here are a few examples:https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4TSHB_enUS342US342&q=hebrew+lexicon
Find one and type in Messiah and see what comes up I bet it will look a little something like this:
Strong's number 04899
mashiyach (מָשִׁיחַ )
1) anointed, anointed one
a) of the Messiah, Messianic prince
b) of the king of Israel
c) of the high priest of Israel
d) of Cyrus
e) of the patriarchs as anointed kings
Hmmmm Now where did you see something like that before???
[quote='Minimalist' pid='259885' dateline='1332480131']
Quote:Matthew And Luke.
Except they disagree.
Another of those contradictions which jesus freaks insist are not contradictions at all.
One is of His Mother and the Other is of His Legal or Step Father's side.
We need Joseph's genealogy because it could be argued that He was not technically the son of David, and We need His mothers side because He was not a blood relative of David. Because Mary and Joseph were not brother and sister we have two genealogies that both run through the house of David to full fill that prophesy no matter how you look at it.
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RE: Old Testament & Christian Morality
March 23, 2012 at 2:45 am
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Quote:because you think you have an oppertunity to humiliate me.
Don't flatter yourself sonny,there's;no need, you do a splendid job all by yourself.
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RE: Old Testament & Christian Morality
March 23, 2012 at 8:30 am
(March 23, 2012 at 2:45 am)padraic Wrote: Quote:because you think you have an oppertunity to humiliate me.
Don't flatter yourself sonny,there's;no need, you do a splendid job all by yourself.
Humility is not to be feared but embraced. I welcome the opportunities you all present, in turn I hope you all take the opportunities I allow you. The op seemed to be confused as to why he put fourth this extra effort, I offered clarity. No one is being flattered here. Just trying to live out my mission statement.
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RE: Old Testament & Christian Morality
March 23, 2012 at 8:58 am
The Seraphim shield their eyes before the Lord due to their state of imperfection. I stand corrected for equating "unclean" with imperfect.
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RE: Old Testament & Christian Morality
March 23, 2012 at 9:10 am
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I think you might mean genealogy Drich (which does not mean family tree  ), a subject that you are clearly incapable of contributing to. Since it's apparent that you've suffered a terrible mis-understanding of the subject to begin with I can see how you failed to distinguish between genealogy and mythical bloodlines meant to confer authority to the claimant by sheer power of the claim.
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RE: Old Testament & Christian Morality
March 23, 2012 at 9:10 am
(March 22, 2012 at 8:30 pm)Drich Wrote: I say sort carries because in Christianity we have been freed from all of the law as a way to obtain Righteousness (the right to be with God) Righteousness ceased becoming an obtainable objective when Christ "completed the Law." there by make it impossible for anyone to earn their way into heaven by their deeds and efforts.
That doesn't seem a little fucked up to you? A Hindu might be the most humble, kind, generous person on Earth, but he can't go to heaven because of Jesus? That's stupid. I'm so glad there's no god like yours in reality.
Quote:Ex: "For you have heard it said you shall not Murder, but I tell you the truth anyone who hates His brother is guilty of this sin."
Yeah, because human feelings toward someone for any reason is so fucking naughty. Anyway, you can hate your bro all you want, because it's impossible to get into heaven by just deeds and efforts. Just believe in zombie jesus, telepathically ask him to forgive you for murder or anything heinous, and you're in.
Quote:That said the "moral Law" is what governs the life of the christian not as a way to earn righteousness before God, but as a thank you for the Gift of atonement/righteousness we have received.
It's all a bunch of bullshit. Think about it.
If your god is so smart, why didn't he just do it like that from the beginning?
Oh... that's right. He's mysterious and shit. Whatever.
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