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RE: Six die because church says STOP HIV treatment
April 1, 2012 at 3:15 am (This post was last modified: April 1, 2012 at 3:28 am by Godscreated.)
(March 31, 2012 at 3:45 am)Aegrus Wrote:
(March 31, 2012 at 3:44 am)Creed of Heresy Wrote:
I can't believe the amount of you people sitting here saying these people deserved to die.
No, I'm serious, you lot sound just as fucking despicable as the pastors and bishops you all rail against and claim to be morally superior to. >:|
Have you guys taken a look around, lately? Have you noticed something about religions? Have you noticed their numbers swell not with of those of sound mind, but rather, by people who are VULNERABLE? Have you never noticed that people in a state of mental or emotional distress turn to religions because religions offer them false promises and false hope? Is it not true that people who lose loved ones, who receive sudden declaration of the shortening of their lives, of those who suffer all forms of emotional trauma turn to religion in desperation for hope, for something to cling to because they likely have nothing else? Is it not true that religions, all of them but ESPECIALLY christianity, prey [or pray?] upon this constantly? That its very design is meant to appeal to the inevitable emotional trauma that people will suffer, that it preys upon the fears and despair of people when they are laid their lowest? That living a life with AIDs, a disease that is definitive early, sickly death both physically and socially [physically later, but socially permanently during your now greatly-shortened lifespan], might be extremely weakening to someone's emotional health and that clearly these poor bastards became victims of a bunch of scam artists and liars?
And you people are saying THEY DESERVE THIS?
What the fucking fuck, people. What. The. Fuck. Is wrong with you guys. Sudden I feel as revolted towards to you just as much as I am by the evangelical predators who led these people to an even earlier death...BECAUSE YOUR MORAL COMPASS IS JUST AS FUCKED UP AS THEIRS IS.
Yay! That's pretty close to what I've been saying.
(March 30, 2012 at 3:28 am)Godschild Wrote: How do you know they were believers.
Seriously? Would an atheist listen to church figures who told him or her to trust the healing powers of god?
Who says they were atheist, like CoH said, those who get terrible news about their life some times become desperate and look for hope no matter what they believed or didn't believe before they became ill.
(March 31, 2012 at 5:52 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote:
(March 31, 2012 at 3:44 am)Creed of Heresy Wrote:
I can't believe the amount of you people sitting here saying these people deserved to die.
No, I'm serious, you lot sound just as fucking despicable as the pastors and bishops you all rail against and claim to be morally superior to. >:|
Have you guys taken a look around, lately? Have you noticed something about religions? Have you noticed their numbers swell not with of those of sound mind, but rather, by people who are VULNERABLE? Have you never noticed that people in a state of mental or emotional distress turn to religions because religions offer them false promises and false hope? Is it not true that people who lose loved ones, who receive sudden declaration of the shortening of their lives, of those who suffer all forms of emotional trauma turn to religion in desperation for hope, for something to cling to because they likely have nothing else? Is it not true that religions, all of them but ESPECIALLY christianity, prey [or pray?] upon this constantly? That its very design is meant to appeal to the inevitable emotional trauma that people will suffer, that it preys upon the fears and despair of people when they are laid their lowest? That living a life with AIDs, a disease that is definitive early, sickly death both physically and socially [physically later, but socially permanently during your now greatly-shortened lifespan], might be extremely weakening to someone's emotional health and that clearly these poor bastards became victims of a bunch of scam artists and liars?
And you people are saying THEY DESERVE THIS?
What the fucking fuck, people. What. The. Fuck. Is wrong with you guys. Sudden I feel as revolted towards to you just as much as I am by the evangelical predators who led these people to an even earlier death...BECAUSE YOUR MORAL COMPASS IS JUST AS FUCKED UP AS THEIRS IS.
I'm sure I'll get over that feeling eventually, but...just...
WOW.
You DO know that this is exactly what gets our collective goat? That the "church" <insert religious affiliation here> TOTALLY relies on the vulnerable, illiterate and insecure to fill it's ranks? You think that THIS is honourable??
It is this VERY fact that is despicable and religion itself is to blame for these deaths coupled with the complicity of the participants who would ignore their doctors advice and rather rely on a no nothing pastor/ priest instead.
That church was responsible for their lives ending sooner, however they are the ones who would ultimately be responsible for their deaths. They were the ones who were irresponsible in their actions and contracted AID's. This church is responsible for giving them false hope, scriptures do not necessarily teach this type of thing.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.