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Arguments against existence of God.
#61
RE: Arguments against existence of God.
Again, the classification system you cite was only recently introduced and is debatable.
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#62
RE: Arguments against existence of God.
(July 11, 2012 at 7:21 pm)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote: Again, the classification system you cite was only recently introduced and is debatable.

It was introduced because of confusion in the words and non-universal application of the words.

Tell me what is the word used for a person whom believes that no god exists?

Is there no word at all? Agnostic although has rooted meaning of no knowledge regarding the issue was used to refer to neutral stance.

While atheism traditionally meant that you are belief of there being no god.

But words are suppose to just convey a meaning. Not to be argued over what they mean.

So I like this classification system as it convey specifically what everyone believes and how strongly they believe it.
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#63
RE: Arguments against existence of God.
Believing no gods exist is atheism too. All you twats are trying to do is divide and conquer through irrelevant quibbling.
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#64
RE: Arguments against existence of God.
(July 11, 2012 at 7:33 pm)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote: Believing no gods exist is atheism too. All you twats are trying to do is divide and conquer through irrelevant quibbling.

Wow so now Atheists are group of brethren that must stick together against Theists?
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#65
RE: Arguments against existence of God.
Ok I think I understood, so was the pope strong or weak when he ordered the attack on the gnostics.

Also
Do you believe there is no God?

A weak Atheist would say no,

Does that mean

no there is no god or yes there is no god
what is the difference?
or
no there is a god or yes there is a god
what is the difference?
or
no I believe there is a god or yes I believe there is a god
or
no I believe there is no god or yes I believe there is no god

What have I said yes or no to?
What does my answer mean?
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#66
RE: Arguments against existence of God.
(July 11, 2012 at 6:14 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I don't know why people evaded the answer.

I didn't evade the question, I answered the way that I did because an agnostic atheist cannot answer the question unequivocally. "No" is an insufficient answer and implies something other than what I do beleive.

Had the question been asked "Do you beleive there is a god?" it would have been much simpler to answer unequivocally than "Do you believe there is no god?".

Examine the question "Do you beleive there is no god?". What are the implications of a "no" answer?

It's a fucking dishonest question.
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#67
RE: Arguments against existence of God.
(July 11, 2012 at 7:45 pm)jonb Wrote: Do you believe there is no God?

A weak Atheist would say no,
this leaves two possibilities:

He believes God exists.
He doesn't believe God exists but doesn't believe he doesn't.

Obviously, being an Atheist, if you answer, the 2nd would be what is assumed. That is the category weak/negative atheism, which commonly is referred to as agnosticism.
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#68
RE: Arguments against existence of God.
(July 11, 2012 at 7:37 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(July 11, 2012 at 7:33 pm)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote: Believing no gods exist is atheism too. All you twats are trying to do is divide and conquer through irrelevant quibbling.

Wow so now Atheists are group of brethren that must stick together against Theists?


you haven't figured that out yet? We are villified more than any other group in the US. Just try runnibg for public office as an admitted atheist. Yiu can’t be so stupid as to not know this, having trolled here as long as you have.
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#69
RE: Arguments against existence of God.
(July 11, 2012 at 7:51 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(July 11, 2012 at 7:45 pm)jonb Wrote: Do you believe there is no God?

A weak Atheist would say no,
this leaves two possibilities:

He believes God exists.
He doesn't believe God exists but doesn't believe he doesn't.

Obviously, being an Atheist, if you answer, the 2nd would be what is assumed. That is the category weak/negative atheism, which commonly is referred to as agnosticism.

I'm an Absurdist so I have no empirical evidence that I do exist

Now I think I see where I was going wrong some gnostics are called gnostics so that they don't get confused with other gnostics which are gnostics, but are not commonly called gnostics so that they don't get confused with the gnostics that are called gnostics, in which case are there agnostic gnostics which are actually atheist

Lastly which of the two possibilities is the yes answer, and which is the no?
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#70
RE: Arguments against existence of God.
(July 11, 2012 at 7:51 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(July 11, 2012 at 7:45 pm)jonb Wrote: Do you believe there is no God?

A weak Atheist would say no,
this leaves two possibilities:

He believes God exists.
He doesn't believe God exists but doesn't believe he doesn't.

Obviously, being an Atheist, if you answer, the 2nd would be what is assumed. That is the category weak/negative atheism, which commonly is referred to as agnosticism.

Atheists are under no obligation whatsoever to subscribe to your twaddle.
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