Science Proves God

[Pahu]

Science Proves God

When we set out to explain why and how something happens, we must use the evidence, facts and experience available to us if we are to arrive at a logical conclusion. Using available evidence, experience, facts, observation and experimentation, we know that the universe had a beginning and that before that beginning there was no universe and therefore there was nothing. We know this because of the Law of Causality (for every cause there is an effect and for every effect there is a cause). Based on this law, we can use the following logic:

1. The universe exists.
2. The universe had a beginning.
3. Before the beginning of the universe, there was no universe.
4. Since there was no universe, there was nothing.
5. Since the universe does exist, it came from nothing.
6. Nothing comes from nothing by any natural cause.
7. Therefore the cause of the universe is supernatural.
8. Life exists.
9. Life always comes from pre-existing life of the same kind (the Law of Biogenesis).
10. Life cannot come from nonliving matter by any natural cause.
11. Since life does exist, the cause of life is supernatural.

Many people with a naturalistic worldview assume everything can be explained by natural causes. From the beginning, they reject the possibility of a supernatural cause. Because of this they are left with no scientifically valid answers to the question of how the universe could come from nothing, which is impossible by any natural cause of which we are aware. Many answers have been proposed that go beyond the realm of known evidence, experience, facts, observation and experimentation and therefore enter the realm of fiction.

The same logic applies to life. Using available evidence, experience, facts, observation and experimentation, we know that life only comes from pre-existing life of the same kind.

“Spontaneous generation (the emergence of life from nonliving matter) has never been observed. All observations have shown that life comes only from life. This has been observed so consistently it is called the Law of Biogenesis. Evolution conflicts with this scientific law by claiming that life came from nonliving matter through natural processes” (From In the Beginning by Walt Brown, Ph.D. page 5). [http://www.creationscience.com/]

Life never comes from non-living matter by any natural cause of which we are aware.

Now that we have seen proof that God exists, using logic based on known evidence, experience, facts, observation and experimentation, we need to see if He has revealed Himself to us. In the Holy Bible there are hundreds of prophecies given by God who is speaking in the first person. In both Bible and secular history we find that those prophecies have been accurately fulfilled. No other writing on earth comes close to doing this! Only God can accurately reveal the future, ergo, He is the author of the Holy Bible. Within the pages of the Holy Bible He reveals His nature, our nature, His relationship to us, our need for salvation and His plan of salvation for us.

The reason the universe and life cannot come from nothing by any natural cause, but can come from a supernatural cause is because God is the self-existent creator of everything and everyone. He is not subject to His creation. He created it and sustains it. It is a mistake to judge God by human standards and human perspectives. God reveals that He is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent.

If you are interested in more detailed proof, read, “Evidence that Demands a Verdict” by Josh McDowell.

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[LastPoet]

Oh noes, another vacuous argument

[The Grand Nudger]

Good for you, you managed to squeeze in the supernatural and "kinds" right off the bat.

I'm still interested in seeing this proof, I guess I'll just have to wait until you post it?

[Cyberman]

Brick wall, meet head. While I'm doing that, anyone want to buy the dead horse this guy's flogging?

[The Grand Nudger]

Nah, people stopped buying the fucking meat, what would I want with a dead horse....hell, they don't even make glue out of the bastards anymore. I prefer my horses to be alive and ready for a lifetime of grueling, thankless servitude.

[Chuff]

ah bless, I think its kinda cute.

[Cato]

Pahu,

You could have at least given us the decency of reading through this forum before preaching the absurdities we've already heard.

Does William Lane Craig approve of you rummaging through his underwear drawer and then using the most stained specimen?

Oh, do fuck off.

[Chuff]

For some reason this came to mind



I've still not found life in my peanut butter. ergo

[The Grand Nudger]

I think it's awesome though that somebody keeps checking the jar...you know..just in case.

[Chuff]

"Truth Frees! Evolution is evidence free speculation masquerading as science."

so much fail

I hope he sticks around for a while