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RE: When you prayed did it ever work?
November 7, 2012 at 11:29 am
(November 6, 2012 at 4:29 pm)Ryantology Wrote: (November 6, 2012 at 2:33 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Crux here. We don't need to explain God. To do so would demand impossible evidence. No one starts on that fools errand.
If proving your claim requires impossible evidence, it is all but certain that your claim, itself, is impossible.
Then please explain or describe what type of 'proof' is needed. If you know what you are looking for then maybe one of us can help you find it.
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RE: When you prayed did it ever work?
November 7, 2012 at 11:32 am
Your god, your burden to bear.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: When you prayed did it ever work?
November 7, 2012 at 11:44 am
What proof/evidence is needed? Well if you can't find any here's an idea... the belief doesn't make sense.
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Re: When you prayed did it ever work?
November 7, 2012 at 8:20 pm
If it did, you would believe of course evie... making it about information.
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RE: When you prayed did it ever work?
November 8, 2012 at 12:19 pm
(This post was last modified: November 8, 2012 at 12:21 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
If it makes sense then do I believe it? I hope so.
If it doesn't make sense then do I believe it? I hope not.
I don't like believing in things that don't make sense, because that's the same as believing in nonsense. Nonsensical beliefs are, well, nonsensical.
Nonsensical, unreasonable, unjustifiable, irrational, illogical, do you believe that these words are good when applied to something that you believe in?
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Re: When you prayed did it ever work?
November 8, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Absolutely evie. Thanks for reiterating my point.
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RE: When you prayed did it ever work?
November 8, 2012 at 3:15 pm
I ended on a question, not a statement.
Are you saying that you do believe that words such as "nonsensical" are good when applied to something that you believe in?
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RE: When you prayed did it ever work?
November 8, 2012 at 5:37 pm
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(November 3, 2012 at 6:06 am)Sōkrátēs Wrote: if praying would work this site would be empty and churches were be full
Someone else claiming to know the will of God.
so let say that a murdered will kill innocent people,so is this all part of the gods will. If this isnt the plane of god,he can stop this. If he can not stop the murder he isnt all might so he does not exists
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Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work?
November 8, 2012 at 6:00 pm
(November 8, 2012 at 3:15 pm)DoubtVsFaith Wrote: Are you saying that you do believe that words such as "nonsensical" are good when applied to something that you believe in?
Of course not! It is perfectly sensible and reasonable (what I believe in. Or how would it be possible for me to believe it?). The difference between us that leads me to believe and you not to believe is information. More specifically the understanding of that information. What is folly to me, is reasonable to you, and vice versa.
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RE: When you prayed did it ever work?
November 8, 2012 at 6:29 pm
Well yes, to be vague, we believe differently because we have different experiences of life, and we are different people.
But I wonder if there is anyway we can get to the specifics of the matter?
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