Christians celebrate rape, torture, slavery and genocide.

[Annik]

What happened is not being disputed. God did indeed call for the complete destruction of several tribes of people, enslavement of others, and assimlation of others still. What is being disputed is this soceities right or rather the foundation used to judge those acts as being bad/evil.

Genocide, rape and murder. You need to decide if these are bad things?

[Kirbmarc]

God did indeed call for the complete destruction of several tribes of people, enslavement of others, and assimlation of others still. What is being disputed is this soceities right or rather the foundation used to judge those acts as being bad/evil.

So if your god existed, he'd be a mass murderer and a slaver. Basically Hitler with less moustaches and more superpowers. What a nice guy.

[John V]

Drich, if you need Min to bring the sauce, he'll smother you in so much historical ooey goodness you won't be able to pull yourself out of the sticky mire of history.

Should be interesting.

And fuck you - he's given me excellent reference materials for me to do my own research before and offered others. On the other hand, he also does a more than excellent job boiling history down for twats like the lot of you who have recently been spinning around his orbit.

Spinning around his orbit??? Seems to me he's an attention whore who needs to jump into every thread regardless of his lack of anything significant to say.

Unless you were referring to his weight...

[thesummerqueen]

Well, the problem, dear John, is that our personal opinions about what is "significant" happen to differ. I'd prefer Min's sarcastic comments to your religious blathering any day.

But it's okay, I realize that you guys have to insult something about him to detract from the fact that he's historically accurate and you guys aren't.

[Kirbmarc]

Unless you were referring to his weight...

[Undeceived]

c) The Christian god owns people and kills them for his own personal reasons.

Therefore, Christianity endorses slavery and genocide, as long as god is doing it. So much for the religion of love.

God despises evil for the damage it causes. When people refuse to stop doing evil, and when they do not accept God's sacrifice for their evil, He has to put an end to the evil. That means destroying the vessel carrying the evil. But He loves the vessels (people), and gives them chances to reform. As 2 Peter 3:9 says, "The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance." The majority of instances of genocide in the Old Testament occurred after a word of warning--Nineveh, Babylon, Sodom, Tyre, Israel ect. all received calls for repentance. God does not kill for personal reasons, He kills in the name of good and in protection of the people who do recognize the problems with sin (sin being the opposite of love).

[downbeatplumb]

c) The Christian god owns people and kills them for his own personal reasons.

Therefore, Christianity endorses slavery and genocide, as long as god is doing it. So much for the religion of love.

God despises evil for the damage it causes. When people refuse to stop doing evil, and when they do not accept God's sacrifice for their evil, He has to put an end to the evil. That means destroying the vessel carrying the evil. But He loves the vessels (people), and gives them chances to reform. As 2 Peter 3:9 says, "The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance." The majority of instances of genocide in the Old Testament occurred after a word of warning--Nineveh, Babylon, Sodom, Tyre, Israel ect. all received calls for repentance. God does not kill for personal reasons, He kills in the name of good and in protection of the people who do recognize the problems with sin (sin being the opposite of love).

So he kills people for their own good.
Got ya.

[thesummerqueen]

I need a glass of Hitchen's preferred in my hand to look at this thread. I know where I'm stopping on the way home.

[Annik]

I think we've reached a new personal record for me - there hasn't been a single thread I've read today that hasn't caused a twinge of headache to erupt in skull.

Care to recant yet? Haha, enjoy your drinkies, Summer.

[Drich]

What I have learned today about Christianity:

a) Genocide isn't always bad, it's only bad if your god says so

b) Thinking that genocide is always bad is "self righteous"

c) The Christian god owns people and kills them for his own personal reasons.

Therefore, Christianity endorses slavery and genocide, as long as god is doing it.