Theism and Western atheism are on the same continuum. Both are realist.

[Minimalist]

Actually Chuck, I think he is off the deep end.

Double slit experiment, quantum mechanics etc. will one day shatter your delusions.

When the technician comes by, roll up your sleeve and take your meds.
They will help.

[alwayson]

When the technician comes by, roll up your sleeve and take your meds.
They will help.

I will take this as another sign of victory.

[jonb]

I will take this as another sign of victory.

There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your simple philosophy.

[The Grand Nudger]

I will take this as another sign of victory.

I think, at this point...you've established that there's very little that you -won't- take as a sign of victory.

[Angrboda]

Good news! You've still got a few of your 15 minutes left!

[Creed of Heresy]

Theism and Western atheism are both based on the assumption that things exist. Thus both are on the same continuum of realism.

The following is a summary of Madhyamaka (which is a system of negation):

All philosophical and religious positions revolve around only 2 views: Existence and Nonexistence.

One cannot claim that anything exists, since for something to exist it would logically have to arise from a) itself b) other or c) both these possibilities together

Something cannot arise from itself, because that brings numerous contradictions. For example, arising would have to be part of its intrinsic nature, which would in turn lead to endless arisings.

Something cannot arise from other, because then you could have a giraffe spring from a rock. Anything could arise from anything. Moreover if an entity in itself does not exist, an entity other than it does not exist either.

Something cannot arise from both these possibilities together, because each one has been individually negated already.

All we are left with is illusion. Things only seem real because of imputed identities.

Reference: Center Of The Sunlit Sky by Karl Brunnholzl

Dude.

I am drunk. Ok? I am at that stage where I am rambling in nonsensical ways that most people have to struggle [and really won't expend the effort bothering with] to understand what the hell I mean when I say something. Not because I'm slurring but because my train of thought is out somewhere way beyond left field where making sense is not my business anymore.

And I can say, without a doubt, and with no hypocrisy within my statement, YOU ARE MAKING NO FUCKING SENSE.

[Gilgamesh]

Theism and Western atheism are both based on the assumption that things exist.

Already wrong.

[jonb]

Good news! You've still got a few of your 15 minutes left!

Being Dyslexic, I am a slower reader than you, his time has gone.

[Angrboda]

Dude.

I am drunk. Ok? I am at that stage where I am rambling in nonsensical ways that most people have to struggle [and really won't expend the effort bothering with] to understand what the hell I mean when I say something. Not because I'm slurring but because my train of thought is out somewhere way beyond left field where making sense is not my business anymore.

Comparing timestamps to the PM I just received from Creed.....

Dude, you realize that you've still got me on ignore, don't you? I couldn't reply to you.... and he won't see this either. *sigh*

[downbeatplumb]

Science will never explain the beginning of the universe, because there is no beginning.

Even from a common sense standpoint, Big Bang has previous causes, which itself has previous causes, which itself has previous causes, which has previous causes, which has previous causes, which has previous causes etc.

Either the universe has always existed or it came into existence suddenly from nowhere.
Both options blow peoples minds.