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Gun Control: Say What you Mean.
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To be fair the Greek goverment caused much of it`s shit by beeing uterly corrupt, not collecting almoust any taxmoney and giving really massive hand outs.

They also cooked their books to hide their real dept from the european central bank.

But guess who helped them cook their books? Goldman Sachs.


Italy under Berlosconi was just taxcut after taxcut after taxcut.

Spain made investments nto useless inferstructure projects, but the biggest amount of spanish debt was aquired through a housing bubble created by the wonderfull world of the free financial market.
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I can't believe you guys are still acting like I support the current US healthcare system. I want the healthcare system to be deregulated so that the prices of healthcare are lowered. I support medical savings accounts. And I also think the FDA should be replaced with a more agile alternative. One that doesn't raise healthcare costs and delay drugs that could save lives for longer than is needed.



(January 8, 2013 at 9:56 pm)The_Germans_are_coming Wrote: Do you honestly think that we built up public dept for 142 years, through 2 World wars and every other events of the 20th century?????????????????????????????????

Your social healthcare system is coming apart at the seams. There have been problems along the way, but it's taken people until now to realize how grave they really are, mainly because they are getting worse.

Quote:And guess what caused the the financial fallout of 2009?


Never said your healthcare system did. I said your healthcare system was 11 billion dollars short in 2009.
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(January 8, 2013 at 3:19 pm)Kayenneh Wrote:
(January 8, 2013 at 3:14 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: We as liberals care about America. That's why a little more empathy and a little less chest pounding would serve us well. This bravado may feel good to you but it doesn't help your country.

This. I'm sorry A Theist, but it's guys like DP that gives the rest of world hope in a truly great USA....
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(January 8, 2013 at 10:14 pm)Surtr Wrote: Your social healthcare system is coming apart at the seams. There have been problems along the way, but it's taken people until now to realize how grave they really are, mainly because they are getting worse.


And in the future..............

there will be robots.


I love it when people with political convictions leave facts on the sideroads in favor of their convictions and become prophets of impending doom or some ideological promissed land or any other baseless thing.

Nope, doesn`t work that way with Germans, at least not anymore.

For quite some time we require facts to be convinced.

Quote:Never said your healthcare system did. I said your healthcare system was 11 billion dollars short in 2009.

WOW!!! You have dug up a number!!! Congratualations.

If you would have dug deeper then you would have noticed that the shortcomings in the social healthcare sector of my country are due to the reunification of 1990.
The resulting debt aquired by the GDR and the healthcare and pention issues of the GDR citizens were payed with debt.

The prize of unification will be 40 year of high debt.

A prize we then were ready to take.

And again, we have our financial household under very good control right noww.
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To bring the end of time.
I am pure and endless pain
And Surtr is my name.

See me rise, the mighty Surt,
Destroyer of the universe.
Bringer of flames and endless hurt
Scorcher of men and Earth.
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(January 8, 2013 at 7:56 pm)A Theist Wrote: ...the reason America hasn't been invaded since 1812 is because we kept ourselves economically and militarily strong....what you liberals are demanding, that America reduces its military strength as a gesture of peace and to set an example for the rest of the world to see and follow, is naive and dangerous...

The irony is our military spending and war of aggression in Iraq is precisely what is destroying us as a world power. Our military spending is simply unsustainable. We are not only #1 in military spending but we spend more than double the combined spending of the next four nations combined.

And the GOP wants senior citizens and the poor to pay for balancing the budget so we may continue running in the Arms Race against a rival superpower that doesn't exist anymore.

If we fall as a power, it won't be from invasion but because we collapsed on the Arms Race track from having continued to compulsively run around and around the track, long after the race was over, until finally dropping from dehydration.

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Quote:I want the healthcare system to be deregulated

Yea because all the "deregulation" that started with Regan has driven up wages and and improved our education system and kept us competitive worldwide.

Oh wait, seems the opposite has happened.

I think you confuse "deregulation" with anti monopoly. We have had "deregulation" but all it has gotten us is more monopolies by big money that require more regulation to stand up to greed.

The common tactic with people like you is to "compete across state lines" failing to see that that guise was used by the big auction industry between Sotheby's and Cristy's. Convince the public there is competition and agree to charge the same prices and not compete.

I could imagine what our military and police would look like if it was privatized with that attitude.
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The reason America hasn't been invaded in 200 years probably has more to do with those big ass oceans which surround us on both sides than anything else.
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I march against the Asagods
To bring the end of time.
I am pure and endless pain
And Surtr is my name.

See me rise, the mighty Surt,
Destroyer of the universe.
Bringer of flames and endless hurt
Scorcher of men and Earth.
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