Praying for others?

[socialchameleon]

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Well Chameleon the Cration museum is actually in my state in northern Kentucky. It's not comparable to Disney Land. It's just a museum but it's all about those crazy creationists views of how we all got here. I've heard that they depict dinosaurs living with humans and humans are riding them with saddles. A bunch of Paleontologists visisted the museum recently because there was a convention in northern kentucky. They all wanted to see what it was like. Some of the scientists broke down in tears because they said the museum blames the holocaust on scientists. It depicts scientists as being satanists and in some of the pictures of scientists they all have evil looking faces and are doing horrible things to people.

I have not been there but I want to go. I'm having a hard time getting my husband to go with me. If I go I will wear a shirt that depicts my views of Christianity. I dare them to make me change my shirt because I'd file a suit against them and sue them for it. If anyone were to ask me to change my shirt I'd tell them to "F off". America is full of Christians and they are usually fundamentalists. I don't know how it is in England but people still think this country was founded by God. Yes...I've heard people say "god had a plan for the USA and he guided our fore fathers on a mission to come here and start a christian nation." I had to say the pledge of allegiance until 1997. I often wondered how we would separate church from state with "one nation under god" being recited by school children. Finally they stopped it in my state at least.

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Wasnt the "One Nation Under God" added in at a later date as a replacement to "One Nation Indivisable" or something along those lines? I'm sure I remember something about Washington certainly not wising to have religion infused with the State?

[fr0d0]

A being cannot be omnipotent, nor omniscient. Time is not like a line... but like a spiderweb of lines. Time is not about one thing moving in a continuous line, but about everything moving everywhere in innumerable lines.

Ever hear about the Big Bang theory? I think it quite probable that we are part of a cyclic bang system. Time does not exist separate from matter, it cannot. Without matter, there is nothing for time to effect. And without the ability to effect anything: it cannot exist.

More on this latter, i have to get to my next class.

And you think my ideas are warped??

Those are absolute statements again Sae. Is this you backing those up?

Yeah that's an interesting idea. I've considered it myself in the past. Never seriously though.. it's too way off the wall What proof do you have of such a notion?

I accept the big bang theory. I have for a very long time. Do you believe in multiple realities for this multitude of timelines then?

[Violet]

Yes. The Big Bang would be no more possible than the Christian god, if it were not part of a cycle (Which has no beginning, or end). Discover and Scientific America (among other links) will follow this post when i get home (Hopefully, i may die on the way there in this timeline , and the internet might not work ^_^ One has got to have an open mind to possibility ).

[fr0d0]

You're full of shit Saerules

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I get it.
He's Dr Who.

No. Take -1 internets LOL

Dr Who is a "Time Traveller". God exists "Outside of Time".

Similar, but not the same

So how can this outside of time dude inscribe stone, impregnate a young girl and become a burning bush, (I hear you can get cream for this).
These are acts that require some 'in time' interaction.

What is existing out of time, do tell.

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You assume my God can't move into time being timeless.

[Secularone]

I like to ask them what exactly they expect their god to do in response to their prayer.
They always answer, "To show you the light."
I point out to them that thousands of others have agreed with them in praying the same prayer and nothing has changed. Then I ask why they think they are going to get their wish when no one else has?
They don't have an answer except to say, "He's working on it."
Then I point out to them that just maybe their god has alreaqdy shown me the light and that's why I'm not a Christian.

[dry land fish]

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Well Chameleon the Cration museum is actually in my state in northern Kentucky. It's not comparable to Disney Land. It's just a museum but it's all about those crazy creationists views of how we all got here. I've heard that they depict dinosaurs living with humans and humans are riding them with saddles. A bunch of Paleontologists visisted the museum recently because there was a convention in northern kentucky. They all wanted to see what it was like. Some of the scientists broke down in tears because they said the museum blames the holocaust on scientists. It depicts scientists as being satanists and in some of the pictures of scientists they all have evil looking faces and are doing horrible things to people.

I have not been there but I want to go. I'm having a hard time getting my husband to go with me. If I go I will wear a shirt that depicts my views of Christianity. I dare them to make me change my shirt because I'd file a suit against them and sue them for it. If anyone were to ask me to change my shirt I'd tell them to "F off". America is full of Christians and they are usually fundamentalists. I don't know how it is in England but people still think this country was founded by God. Yes...I've heard people say "god had a plan for the USA and he guided our fore fathers on a mission to come here and start a christian nation." I had to say the pledge of allegiance until 1997. I often wondered how we would separate church from state with "one nation under god" being recited by school children. Finally they stopped it in my state at least.

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Wasnt the "One Nation Under God" added in at a later date as a replacement to "One Nation Indivisable" or something along those lines? I'm sure I remember something about Washington certainly not wising to have religion infused with the State?

Well the pledge we said until the late 90's said "We pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic to whitch it stands one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all". So no I don't think it was added to get rid of "one nation under god". I don't know what they did with it after we had to stop saying it. Every morning we had to stand up before class and look at the flag and say it. Oh and the under god thing was put in there by some man in the 1950's or maybe 1800's. I don't know but I just found out that it wasn't always in there.