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RE: Biblical Inerrancy - mandatory to be Christian?
March 18, 2013 at 11:08 pm
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(March 18, 2013 at 7:52 pm)AnonyMoose Wrote: Is biblical inerrancy a mandatory component of christianity? Are there any major christian sects that do not believe the bible to be 100% true?
When I went to Notre Dame, I learned that even the Catholics don't necessarily believe the Bible to be 100% true. I was repeatedly told that "The Bible is not meant for [scientific/historical] truth. It's meant for religious truth." Hell, even the most religiously jerkasstic teachers didn't believe in the traditional idea of Hell.
For instance, from what I understand, this is an approximation of the current Catholic view of Hell:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wnevk-6h6aI
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RE: Biblical Inerrancy - mandatory to be Christian?
March 18, 2013 at 11:20 pm
If you lose too much though, you lose the power of the holy spirit and the glory.
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RE: Biblical Inerrancy - mandatory to be Christian?
March 18, 2013 at 11:23 pm
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(March 18, 2013 at 11:03 pm)jstrodel Wrote: No, but they do not need to be to be authoritative. Some things are certain, other things are difficult. Same as it is with everything else in life.
I really don't know how to respond to this... Do you expect me to ask what things are certain? I feel like you're setting me up for a sermon somehow.
(March 18, 2013 at 11:20 pm)jstrodel Wrote: If you lose too much though, you lose the power of the holy spirit and the glory.
^^^^ This seems authoritive. Is it blasphemy for me to reject possession by the "holy spirit"?
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RE: Biblical Inerrancy - mandatory to be Christian?
March 18, 2013 at 11:27 pm
When you walk in the Holy Ghost you get to know H'Shem better. It is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit if you reject God permanently.
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RE: Biblical Inerrancy - mandatory to be Christian?
March 18, 2013 at 11:35 pm
(March 18, 2013 at 11:27 pm)jstrodel Wrote: When you walk in the Holy Ghost you get to know H'Shem better. It is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit if you reject God permanently. Well, I refuse to be "possessed" by some other force that seems like it convinces others that blood sacrifice is "good".
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RE: Biblical Inerrancy - mandatory to be Christian?
March 18, 2013 at 11:37 pm
God makes the blood sacrifice though in Jesus Christ. What do you object to about it?
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RE: Biblical Inerrancy - mandatory to be Christian?
March 18, 2013 at 11:45 pm
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(March 18, 2013 at 11:37 pm)jstrodel Wrote: God makes the blood sacrifice though in Jesus Christ. What do you object to about it?
Is this one of those "points" you believe is inerrant? Because I believe with 99.9% certainty that human sacrifice (or blood sacrifice in general) is a pagan practice, was not commanded by God, was detested by God, was not performed properly by Jewish "law" and was not even for the right type of sin.
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RE: Biblical Inerrancy - mandatory to be Christian?
March 18, 2013 at 11:48 pm
I believe that the original scriptures describe the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, as the most beautiful act in history, that the tradition has faithfully represented the original intention by God.
Are you Jewish? Neat. I was interested in converting to Judaism before I became a Christian. Why do you think those things? What makes you think blood sacrifice is wrong?
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RE: Biblical Inerrancy - mandatory to be Christian?
March 18, 2013 at 11:57 pm
(March 18, 2013 at 11:48 pm)jstrodel Wrote: I believe that the original scriptures describe the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, as the most beautiful act in history, that the tradition has faithfully represented the original intention by God. What was taught in the Bible (OT) is that no man can be ransomed and the NT taught that everyone gets judged and all one needs to do to obtain eternal (aeonian) life is to visit the widows in their infliction blah, blah, blah...
(March 18, 2013 at 11:48 pm)jstrodel Wrote: Are you Jewish? Neat. I was interested in converting to Judaism before I became a Christian. Why do you think those things? What makes you think blood sacrifice is wrong? If it wasn't for my lack of Hebrew and this whole Yeshua thing, I'd be Jewish... 
Why? Because my heart told me it was wrong and that led to research which led to me being convinced is was stupid, a lie, barbaric and promoted non-accountability.
Am I allowed to come to God on His terms or do you have a prescription for everyone?
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RE: Biblical Inerrancy - mandatory to be Christian?
March 19, 2013 at 12:02 am
Quote:What was taught in the Bible (OT) is that no man can be ransomed and the NT taught that everyone gets judged and all one needs to do to obtain eternal (aeonian) life is to visit the widows in their infliction blah, blah, blah...
In Isaiah 53 it says "all we like sheep have gone astray, we have turned everyone to his own way and the Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all". Have you read that? In the Old Testament it talk a lot about the sacrifices that are made to atone for sins. Have you ever read the book of Hebrews?
Quote:Am I allowed to come to God on His terms or do you have a prescription for everyone?
Well, it is not a prescription. If it is possible to know anything about God, the things that are learned, if they are known, negate their negations. To say what God is is to say what God is not. So I believe what I do about God and deny what I don't believe.
I don't see how that is different from anything else.
Good luck in your search.
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