Ergo he didn't try to spread disbelief?
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Atheism - less war?
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 (April 22, 2013 at 6:49 pm)Dawud Wrote: I don't think you can spread disbelief by violence - I reckon that's why he failed - but it was obviously the aim of his attack on belief in God: to spread disbelief. Do you always fail to respond to rebuttals and simply reassert your original claim? ...cause I can tell you, that's a strategy that really impresses around here. 
So you deny he tried to spread disbelief guys...?
Go - on.... Take your pick - yes, no or the door....
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Go on - Take your pick - don't be shy!
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A war free world would require everyone to have no opinions or beliefs.
 (April 22, 2013 at 6:54 pm)Dawud Wrote: Ergo he didn't try to spread disbelief? Instead of a state religion, he wanted the state to be the religion. Stalin believed that god existed. He was pretty sure he saw him in the mirror every morning.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould RE: Atheism - less war?
April 22, 2013 at 7:05 pm
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(April 22, 2013 at 7:02 pm)Dawud Wrote: ....I'll have the chicken Mr. Dichotomy. At least try just a little bit harder than this......I'm a big fan of effort.
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(April 22, 2013 at 6:57 pm)Dawud Wrote: So you deny he tried to spread disbelief guys...? The answer is naunced enough that a simple yes or no does not sufficiently answer the question. However, as this has been pointed out to you several times in this very thread, I don't expect you to appreciate it.  RE: Atheism - less war?
April 23, 2013 at 10:29 am
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(April 22, 2013 at 1:37 pm)Rhythm Wrote: That may not be entirely accurate Nony. Polytheistic religions could be just as brutal. I'm not sure the number of gods in the pantheon is the operative factor - but rather the nature of the character in the narrative. I invite everyone to post examples of where wars and such were specifically ordered by the gods. I do not mean approved after the fact or helped along because of sacrifice. I mean "Destroy Amalek" and spread Islam and free the holy land. (April 22, 2013 at 2:20 pm)Dawud Wrote: So what is the difference between a religion and a philosophy? There are two major types of religions creedal like Christianity and ritual/taboo like Judaism and Islam. Judaism requires no beliefs whatsoever. Islam requires only two beliefs expressed in the act of joining. All the rest is ritual/taboo. (April 22, 2013 at 2:20 pm)Dawud Wrote: So you can be spiritual and atheist - everyone agreed? There are no spirits either. (April 22, 2013 at 5:05 pm)Dawud Wrote: Basically most people I've spoken think that this Wiki article needs to be changed severely: That seems to address its intended audience of high school students. |
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