I'm just really curious as to what some of the answers are so I'm putting this out there: What would it take for you to believe God is real?
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For non-Christians: What would it take?
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First and foremost, it would take a real god.
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June 13, 2013 at 1:12 am
(This post was last modified: June 13, 2013 at 1:14 am by vangirl23.)
Why not wade through this thread before rehashing stuff that is barely a month old?
http://atheistforums.org/thread-18722.html  (June 13, 2013 at 1:04 am)vangirl23 Wrote: I'm just really curious as to what some of the answers are so I'm putting this out there: What would it take for you to believe God is real? Fine, here are my conditions. When I wake up tomorrow: 1. Nobody is hungry, all humans have uninhibited access to clean water and proper shelter from the elements, and don't have to prostrate themselves to some thug trading ideology for basic necessities. 2. People respect one another as individuals of the human species; regarless of their place of origin, skin color (or other physical attribute), sexual orientation or number of appendages. 3. People that invoke physical interaction for the means of dispute resolution are immediately vaporized (if you're kinder, we can immediately send them to the middle Anarctica to save a newly planted palm tree).  
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June 13, 2013 at 2:08 am
(This post was last modified: June 13, 2013 at 2:20 am by fr0d0.)
(June 13, 2013 at 1:49 am)Minimalist Wrote: Why not wade through this thread before rehashing stuff that is barely a month old? Different question. The thread you linked is about (independently verifiable) proof of existence (logically impossible) whereas this thread is about 'belief' (logically coherent). Very different.  (June 13, 2013 at 1:04 am)vangirl23 Wrote: I'm just really curious as to what some of the answers are so I'm putting this out there: What would it take for you to believe God is real? Odds significantly better than one times 10 to the 37th power.
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-- Samuel "Mark Twain" Clemens "I think that in the discussion of natural problems we ought to begin not with the scriptures, but with experiments, demonstrations, and observations". - Galileo Galilei (1564-1642) "In short, Meyer has shown that his first disastrous book was not a fluke: he is capable of going into any field in which he has no training or research experience and botching it just as badly as he did molecular biology. As I've written before, if you are a complete amateur and don't understand a subject, don't demonstrate the Dunning-Kruger effect by writing a book about it and proving your ignorance to everyone else! " - Dr. Donald Prothero  (June 13, 2013 at 1:04 am)vangirl23 Wrote: I'm just really curious as to what some of the answers are so I'm putting this out there: What would it take for you to believe God is real? It would need to act in a way that is distinguishable with its non-existence so that it can't be equated with humans making stuff up. Basically, non-inferentially justified evidence would be nice, instead of the tired old "surrender yourself to Christ, and then he will show himself" which requires us to presuppose a particular god for no apparent reason before we have the credible experience that suggests this god even exists in the first place. "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
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(June 13, 2013 at 2:08 am)fr0d0 Wrote:(June 13, 2013 at 1:49 am)Minimalist Wrote: Why not wade through this thread before rehashing stuff that is barely a month old? Frods....Frods....Frods..... it's the same shit. It's always the same shit. Even you should know that by now. |
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