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RE: For non-Christians: What would it take?
June 13, 2013 at 8:18 am
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(June 13, 2013 at 1:04 am)vangirl23 Wrote: I'm just really curious as to what some of the answers are so I'm putting this out there: What would it take for you to believe God is real?
Which god are you taking about?
I'm rather a fan of Zeus(randy little bugger).
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If you're not supposed to ride faster than your guardian angel can fly then mine had better get a bloody SR-71.
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RE: For non-Christians: What would it take?
June 13, 2013 at 8:22 am
I do like THOR!
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RE: For non-Christians: What would it take?
June 13, 2013 at 8:55 am
I agree with most people on here. We need to know what god your talking about or if you many any god. Also if you mean believe or worship, because those are two different things.
Personally if the Abrahamic god just showed up in my living room, I would make the conscious choice not to worship him. I would tell him to shove off cause hes a dick. However if Aphrodite showed up, I would create a cult of Aphrodite. Lots of women, lots of wine, lots of parties. Whats not to love?
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RE: For non-Christians: What would it take?
June 13, 2013 at 9:00 am
If any god appeared before me displaying supernatural power and a demand that I repent or suffer for an eternity I'm turning coat and commencing ass kissing time.
To spend an eternity in hell because you don't agree with the god's methodology is just irrational.
I'm not especially rebellious. I'm just practical.
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RE: For non-Christians: What would it take?
June 13, 2013 at 9:03 am
For those who are making the claims of a higher being appearing before you, do you mean before you alone or before the entire world? If you alone, how are the rest of us to know you are not merely delusional.
Taking the world wide route, if a higher being appeared before everyone, how are we to know it is indeed a God/dess? What if it was a highly evolved alien species with particular powers derived from higher brain functions?
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RE: For non-Christians: What would it take?
June 13, 2013 at 9:12 am
(June 13, 2013 at 9:03 am)Maelstrom Wrote: For those who are making the claims of a higher being appearing before you, do you mean before you alone or before the entire world? If you alone, how are the rest of us to know you are not merely delusional.
I wouldn't care what the rest of humanity believed. Self preservation time. You're on your own.
(June 13, 2013 at 9:03 am)Maelstrom Wrote: Taking the world wide route, if a higher being appeared before everyone, how are we to know it is indeed a God/dess? What if it was a highly evolved alien species with particular powers derived from higher brain functions?
I for one would welcome our new galactic overlords.
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RE: For non-Christians: What would it take?
June 13, 2013 at 9:30 am
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(June 13, 2013 at 8:22 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: I do like THOR!
The warrior roared across the plain
Atop a snow-white filly
"I'm Thor!" he cried
The horse replied
"Well, buy a thaddle, thilly!"
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: For non-Christians: What would it take?
June 13, 2013 at 10:24 am
(June 13, 2013 at 5:18 am)pocaracas Wrote: (June 13, 2013 at 4:38 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: ![[Image: 943099_485074421573583_1293265811_n.jpg]](https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/943099_485074421573583_1293265811_n.jpg)
Kichi, are you sure that Spock said that in the motion picture?
I have no memory of him saying that in any of the movies...
OK, kichi, it seems that was in one of the several drafts for the motion picture.
Being a bit un-Spock-like and un-Roddenberry-like, it didn't make it to the final cut...
It seems some people on reddit discussed that at length and some of them claim to have been directly related to one of the writers:
http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments...berry_for/
Quote:[–]rprebel 154 points 10 months ago
Not only does it not sound like Spock, but more importantly it doesn't sound like Roddenberry.
[–]spikey666 34 points 10 months ago
Harold Livingston wrote the script for Star Trek: The Motion Picture. And this quotes notes that it's from the original draft. There was apparently a lot of changes.
[–]zaoldyeck 49 points 10 months ago
Yeah, my dad was one of the writers (he only got associate producer credit, didn't fight for a screenplay credit) and remembers telling me how many rushed drafts there were. My mom, Harold's secretary at the time, ran different versions to set sometimes right before shooting.
It was, in many ways, a film doomed to fail. Robert Wise got most of the blame, but it wasn't Roddenberry's fault, nor Wise's fault, it was, by and large, the studio's colossal failure by pre-selling the movie and forcing a release date that should never have been set. Plus the egos on set were impossible apparently, even Shatner tried to send some scripts to set.
Kudos to knowing who Harold Livingston is, though. He used to have a really intimidating great dane, that's about all I remember about visits to his place, haven't seen him since I was like 7, and I'm 24 now.
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RE: For non-Christians: What would it take?
June 13, 2013 at 10:27 am
I think you are making too much of an issue about this pocaracas. It's OK.
Is the quote "What does god need with a space ship" also non-Roddenberry ?
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RE: For non-Christians: What would it take?
June 13, 2013 at 10:52 am
(June 13, 2013 at 10:27 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: I think you are making too much of an issue about this pocaracas. It's OK.
Is the quote "What does god need with a space ship" also non-Roddenberry ?
That's very kirk-like! 
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