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For non-Christians: What would it take?
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RE: For non-Christians: What would it take?
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#12
RE: For non-Christians: What would it take?
(June 13, 2013 at 4:38 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: [Image: 943099_485074421573583_1293265811_n.jpg]

Kichi, are you sure that Spock said that in the motion picture?
I have no memory of him saying that in any of the movies...
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#13
RE: For non-Christians: What would it take?
Yeah, I also don't recall Spock saying that. Was it some kind of directors cut or something? I stand behind the statement though.

First and foremost "God" requires a proper definition. But actually I don't care, nothing is missing from my life, if there's a God or not doesn't matter to me.
"Men see clearly enough the barbarity of all ages — except their own!" — Ernest Crosby.
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RE: For non-Christians: What would it take?
It would require God appearing before all of humanity at once, and displaying him or her [more likely her] self to be of godly compassion and knowledge and above human emotion.

I won't hold my breath.
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RE: For non-Christians: What would it take?
(June 13, 2013 at 6:02 am)Creed of Heresy Wrote: displaying him or her [more likely her] self

Interesting gender distinction there. Out of curiosity, why do you believe a goddess would possibly be more plausible than a god?
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
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RE: For non-Christians: What would it take?
(June 13, 2013 at 6:05 am)Maelstrom Wrote:
(June 13, 2013 at 6:02 am)Creed of Heresy Wrote: displaying him or her [more likely her] self

Interesting gender distinction there. Out of curiosity, why do you believe a goddess would possibly be more plausible than a god?
I always like to think of Him as a guy, simply because for some reason I wouldn't expect a woman to fuck up THIS bad.

Still I occasionally write Her just to piss off theists.
"Men see clearly enough the barbarity of all ages — except their own!" — Ernest Crosby.
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RE: For non-Christians: What would it take?
(June 13, 2013 at 1:12 am)vangirl23 Wrote: What would a real god look like for you?

Or to phrase it better, how would you recognize a real god?

More to the point, what is the 'real god' you'e proposing? Because you opened with "God" in a question pertaining to Xtianity, but then palmed a card with a generic 'god' which doesn't necessarily come with anything like as much contradictory and harmful baggage. I realise you were responding to Min's use of the term but the distinction is an important one and needs to be clarified before we can make much sensible headway.

That said, of course, if it is the former you're selling, we know that bastard doesn't exist, since we know the things it's supposed to have done - six day creation, Adam and Eve, global flood etc - never happened as the mythology says they did. It's got a lot to answer and apologise for if it does turn out to exist, however. I certainly could never lower myself to worship it in any case, since the mythological record demonstrates it to have long since forfeited any entitlement it may once have had.

To give you a taste of how your question looks from my perspective, let's turn it around. What would it take for you to believe in Zeus, or Wotan, or Quetzecoatl, or Ceiling Cat, or...

Ponder that honestly then get back to us.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: For non-Christians: What would it take?
Well, succinctly, I view women more as creators and men as the destroyers, with both the good and bad that both entail. Men have had to be destroyers. The hunters, the workers, the guards to the women who produce their young. Note I said guard. As in to defend, not to guard a cage. A god of creation would have to be a godDESS of creation because creation is one of the most signifying aspects of being a woman; not just to create art but also life.
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#19
RE: For non-Christians: What would it take?
What about those of us who are neither men nor women - and those who are androgynous? O.o
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RE: For non-Christians: What would it take?
(June 13, 2013 at 1:04 am)vangirl23 Wrote: I'm just really curious as to what some of the answers are so I'm putting this out there: What would it take for you to believe God is real?
Evidence.

But first you need to define 'god' so that I can state the type & standard of evidence which I would require.

I would add that I find it impossible to disbelieve anything which is factually demonstrated.
Sum ergo sum
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