How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
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How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
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 RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 26, 2013 at 10:00 pm
(October 26, 2013 at 9:54 pm)Zen Badger Wrote:(October 25, 2013 at 11:36 am)catfish Wrote: Dude, just stop. I pointed out your dishonest tactics, deal with it. lol, Now you result to insults.  Seriously man, keep it up.  RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 26, 2013 at 10:51 pm
(October 26, 2013 at 10:00 pm)catfish Wrote:(October 26, 2013 at 9:54 pm)Zen Badger Wrote: Coming from the wanker that got a temporary ban for being a fuckstick, that's real cute. No...actually I've been insulting you for quite some time. Have a big cup of concrete and harden the fuck up. ![[Image: mybannerglitter06eee094.gif]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i118.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo112%2Fpussinboots_photos%2FBikes%2Fmybannerglitter06eee094.gif) If you're not supposed to ride faster than your guardian angel can fly then mine had better get a bloody SR-71. 
Bad Wolf
Compulsive procrastinator  Religious Views: Agnostic atheist, anti-theist, whovian, misanthrope? RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 26, 2013 at 11:05 pm
(October 26, 2013 at 9:57 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: Do you agree that omnipotence is an expression that God can do anything He wants? No
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 26, 2013 at 11:12 pm
(This post was last modified: October 26, 2013 at 11:21 pm by Zen Badger.)
(October 26, 2013 at 9:57 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: Do you agree that omnipotence is an expression that God can do anything He wants? You mean like killing innocents such as babies? Could be.... He certainly seems to be unrestrained by any compassion or morality as we understand it. If you're not supposed to ride faster than your guardian angel can fly then mine had better get a bloody SR-71.  RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 27, 2013 at 6:18 am
(October 26, 2013 at 9:50 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: Omnipotence is Gods ability to do anything He WANTS to do. But if god wanted to do something, he'd be able to? So... he can do anything. Why did you bother classifying this? Quote:People mistakenly think omniscience is a separate quality of God's nature. So there are things that god doesn't know? Oh, this should be fun.  If god doesn't know everything, then his claims to being capable of knowing anything and doing anything are wrong by default; there is a distinct possibility that one of those things he doesn't know is the fact that there are things he's incapable of doing or knowing, he just doesn't know what they are because he hasn't bothered knowing the fact that he's limited. And down the logical corkscrew we go. 
"YOU take the hard look in the mirror. You are everything that is wrong with this world. The only thing important to you, is you." - ronedee
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October 27, 2013 at 9:03 am
(October 22, 2013 at 1:02 pm)John V Wrote:(October 22, 2013 at 11:53 am)Faith No More Wrote: By what measure? Any benefit you try to ascribe to suffering is negated by the fact that god is omnipotent and could bring about those benefits any way possible. Suffering is superfluous to an omnipotent god unless suffering is goal.You can't learn to comfort if no one needs comforting. And you don't need to learn to comfort if no one needs comforting. See how that works? Think things through to a logical conclusion.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.  RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 27, 2013 at 11:30 am
OK, someone please answer me this: Why would I want to worship a god that is neither all-powerful nor all-knowing?
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
Bad Wolf
Compulsive procrastinator Religious Views: Agnostic atheist, anti-theist, whovian, misanthrope? RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 27, 2013 at 1:15 pm
(October 27, 2013 at 11:30 am)Doubting Thomas Wrote: OK, someone please answer me this: Why would I want to worship a god that is neither all-powerful nor all-knowing? Maybe he's just a really nice guy?
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 27, 2013 at 9:24 pm
Second question, why would I want to worship a deity that's powerful enough to torture me for eternity, but not powerful enough to end suffering on earth. Sounds like a sadistic, evil god.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
 RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 27, 2013 at 10:55 pm
(October 27, 2013 at 6:18 am)Esquilax Wrote:(October 26, 2013 at 9:50 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: Omnipotence is Gods ability to do anything He WANTS to do. Because some people think God is compelled to do stuff just because we cant understand His action/inaction. ...God must be impotent because He doesnt do 'xyz' and we think He should (October 27, 2013 at 6:18 am)Esquilax Wrote:Quote:People mistakenly think omniscience is a separate quality of God's nature. There is nothing that God is incapable of knowing anytime He chooses. Do you agree that God could, if He wanted, choose not to be mindful of something in the future? ...yeah but God, arent you worried about people with free will (like satan) doing stuff unexpectedly? God - No. I'm God. I can cross that bridge when I come to it. If I feel like it. If I let it get that far. Besides, why would I want to fast forward to the end of the movie? |
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