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The war on Christmas
November 13, 2013 at 10:48 am
First thread. Let me know if it's on the wrong forum.
So I've read about Sarah Palin's book, about the war on Christmas. Not read the book itself because I'm really, really fed up of first world Christians whining about being persecuted and I suspect it would make me cross.
I have a question for you atheist folks.
If I, being a Christian, wished you a happy Christmas, would you be OK with that? Are there any circumstances you would find it offensive?
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RE: The war on Christmas
November 13, 2013 at 10:50 am
I guess it depends on the atheist. I wouldn't give two shits about it cause Christmas has never been anything to do with religion for me. All about the presents!!
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RE: The war on Christmas
November 13, 2013 at 10:55 am
(November 13, 2013 at 10:50 am)Rationalman Wrote: I guess it depends on the atheist. I wouldn't give two shits about it cause Christmas has never been anything to do with religion for me. All about the presents!! No love for the food?
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RE: The war on Christmas
November 13, 2013 at 11:04 am
(November 13, 2013 at 10:55 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: No love for the food?
That goes without saying
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
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RE: The war on Christmas
November 13, 2013 at 11:04 am
(November 13, 2013 at 10:48 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: First thread. Let me know if it's on the wrong forum.
So I've read about Sarah Palin's book, about the war on Christmas. Not read the book itself because I'm really, really fed up of first world Christians whining about being persecuted and I suspect it would make me cross.
I have a question for you atheist folks.
If I, being a Christian, wished you a happy Christmas, would you be OK with that? Are there any circumstances you would find it offensive?
Yes, Christmas has become such a fine mockery of fraud of christianity that we atheists are more than willing to enjoy it, and would take any suggestion that we should enjoy it more in excellent grace.
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RE: The war on Christmas
November 13, 2013 at 11:14 am
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Ok, I'm new here so I'm not sure where the sarcasm leaves off. Are you saying that because Xmas has nothing to do with Christ you're happy to enjoy it? Or are you saying you're not happy to be wished happy Christmas cos it's not your thing.
Sorry, your grammar is confusing.
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RE: The war on Christmas
November 13, 2013 at 11:21 am
I wouldn't be offended because to me Christmas is about having a reason to celebrate in the dead of winter, to enjoy family and friends, to give gifts, and yes, to enjoy the good food and wine. All my family still celebrates the religious aspect of it but I don't. To me it's all about all that other pagan stuff which was adopted into the holiday, mainly because Jesus wasn't even born in the winter. Same goes for Easter. I enjoy jellybeans, colored eggs, chocolate bunnies, and pastel colors to celebrate the end of winter and return of spring. None of which has to do with Jesus' supposed resurrection.
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RE: The war on Christmas
November 13, 2013 at 11:21 am
Anybody who'd be offended by being wished "merry christmas" is a fucking idiot.
My 2 cents.
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RE: The war on Christmas
November 13, 2013 at 11:22 am
I don't give a shit about xmas one way or the other EXCEPT for that miserable, sappy, shitty, music they blare at you in every store because they think it puts shoppers "in the mood." It puts me in the mood to hose down the speaker system with an AK-47.
Other than that, xmas is just a minor irritation and I content myself to remember that it is a stolen pagan holiday so I celebrate the Saturnalia instead.
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RE: The war on Christmas
November 13, 2013 at 11:23 am
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(November 13, 2013 at 11:22 am)Minimalist Wrote: I don't give a shit about xmas one way or the other EXCEPT for that miserable, sappy, shitty, music they blare at you in every store because they think it puts shoppers "in the mood." It puts me in the mood to hose down the speaker system with an AK-47.
Other than that, xmas is just a minor irritation and I content myself to remember that it is a stolen pagan holiday so I celebrate the Saturnalia instead.
Happy saturnalia!
(November 13, 2013 at 11:21 am)Napoléon Wrote: Anybody who'd be offended by being wished "merry christmas" is a fucking idiot.
My 2 cents. See this is what I thought too. If someone wished me happy divali, or happy Hanukkah, or anything like it, I'd be pleased by the sentiment. The happy is the key bit, not the festival. Hence my confusion.
Why should a cheery greeting offend someone, irrespective of their views on the origin of that time of year.
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Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken."
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