Pro abortion or not

[pineapplebunnybounce]

I heard what you all said. I do want to convince you because I believe the nation is going to pot and I think we need to return to what made us great. My intention is not to attack any individual personally, but to put my views out there.

What nation? You're on the internet. The world is just a little bigger than whatever country you're from, and with your attitude I'm going hazard and guess and say you're american.

What you've done is spout some really naive brainwashed bullshit. You've shown that you have no idea what actually goes on in the real world. You're ignoring reality and pretending that there is a perfect solution so that you can judge everyone.


Edit: just fixed what appeared to be a really really long sentence.

[NoraBrimstone]

Your views are painfully naiive and unrealistic. People are going to have sex. It's a healthy part of our nature. Mostly, people will do so safely, but sometimes protection fails, or people take stupid risks (like how most people are guilty of occasionally not wearing a seatbelt), and some people are just plain stupid and either don't use protection or don't understand how to use it correctly (Hint: If you use two condoms at once, expect the friction between them to cause one or both of them to break.) None of that means a person deserves to have their vagina ripped open and shit.

[Lek]

IWhat nation? You're on the internet. The world is just a little bigger than whatever country you're from, and with your attitude I'm going hazard and guess and say you're american.

What you've done is spout some really naive brainwashed bullshit. You've shown that you have no idea what actually goes on in the real world. You're ignoring reality and pretending that there is a perfect solution so that you can judge everyone.

You're right. I'm an American. We always thought we were the whole world anyway.

[pocaracas]

IWhat nation? You're on the internet. The world is just a little bigger than whatever country you're from, and with your attitude I'm going hazard and guess and say you're american.

What you've done is spout some really naive brainwashed bullshit. You've shown that you have no idea what actually goes on in the real world. You're ignoring reality and pretending that there is a perfect solution so that you can judge everyone.

You're right. I'm an American. We always thought we were the whole world anyway.

Next, you'll say the bible was originally written in English, then translated to hebrew and greek, right?

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[rexbeccarox]

Somebody just had to open this can of worms, I am officially uninvolved.

My solution to issue however would be to require people to be licensed to have children, and ultimately pay either a hefty fine or hefty tax for if an individual were to have a child without a license.

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Crime- greatly reduced
Unwanted pregnancies- greatly reduced
Foster kids- greatly reduced
Outlook of society- looks a little brighter

But since abortion would still exist until this would be enacted, I would have to be pro abortion just for the sake that women should have the decision of what occurs in their bodies. Although I do value human life otherwise with great extent and suggest that women who do not wish to have a child to put the child into foster care.

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Caleb, don't you think money is a good reason people would be qualified or not for the license? Where would they get the money for the fine? Also, how would paying a fine help the unlicensed be better parents? I mean, the kid still exists, right? Unless you're talking about forced abortion... and I really hope you're not. Did you think this through?

[Cato]

You're right. I'm an American. We always thought we were the whole world anyway.

I'm a proud citizen of the United States; however, I was never so stupid to think that the U.S. was the "whole world". Perhaps you should consult me before throwing around the 'we' bit.

[Belac Enrobso]

Somebody just had to open this can of worms, I am officially uninvolved.

My solution to issue however would be to require people to be licensed to have children, and ultimately pay either a hefty fine or hefty tax for if an individual were to have a child without a license.

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Crime- greatly reduced
Unwanted pregnancies- greatly reduced
Foster kids- greatly reduced
Outlook of society- looks a little brighter

But since abortion would still exist until this would be enacted, I would have to be pro abortion just for the sake that women should have the decision of what occurs in their bodies. Although I do value human life otherwise with great extent and suggest that women who do not wish to have a child to put the child into foster care.

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Caleb, don't you think money is a good reason people would be qualified or not for the license? Where would they get the money for the fine? Also, how would paying a fine help the unlicensed be better parents? I mean, the kid still exists, right? Unless you're talking about forced abortion... and I really hope you're not. Did you think this through?

If men pulled out just in time more often, women swallowed more often, or if both male and female sex partners used proper forms of birth control more often, the issue of abortion would be of less importance. However, many people fail to do this becuase they are irresponsible, irresponsible adults would not be able to have a license, and if unlicensed individuals have a child in development, a forced abortion would and should never be mentioned nor done. That would be right up their with eugenics, which is pretty immoral in most cases. The child should either be voluntarily aborted, or should exit the womb via natural birth or c-section, and then the child should immediately be put into foster care to become adopted by a licensed adult/couple. The fine/tax should still be in effect just to serve as motivation to not have another child while unlicensed.

[NoraBrimstone]

Jesus Christ. It's been a few years since I met someone stupid enough to think "pulling out" is a form of birth control. You win a prize!

And as for stopping people who want kids from having them, and stealing kids from loving homes, you have got to be trolling.

[Belac Enrobso]

Jesus Christ. It's been a few years since I met someone stupid enough to think "pulling out" is a form of birth control. You win a prize!

By your statement, I presume that swallowing salty white juices is a form of birth control as well?

[NoraBrimstone]

Jesus Christ. It's been a few years since I met someone stupid enough to think "pulling out" is a form of birth control. You win a prize!

By your statement, I presume that swallowing salty white juices is a form of birth control as well?

...So you were just trolling. That's reassuring. Especially after the two condoms comment.