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RE: Bloody poll: would you worship a God whose existence was certain?
January 9, 2014 at 12:57 pm
Two words need defining before I can answer the question.
What is "worship"?
What is "God"?
Am I to presume that you are using definitions found in the bible?
If so, then I'm afraid the scope is too narrow for any detailed response on my part.
In that case I'd give a simple "no" response to the question.
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RE: Bloody poll: would you worship a God whose existence was certain?
January 9, 2014 at 12:57 pm
(January 9, 2014 at 12:42 pm)Ivy Wrote: If not doing so would send me to eternal torture, yes. I'd worship. Though, inside I'd be doing this:
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Add to this: What's this joker even done to deserve my worship?
And if God is going to submit me to eternal torture because my "worship" isn't sincere (because, you know, God is supposed to be omniscient and would know) than he's an asshole who shouldn't get the satisfaction of me even pretending to worship him.
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RE: Bloody poll: would you worship a God whose existence was certain?
January 9, 2014 at 1:05 pm
Reality explains simply that both good shit and bad shit happen. Postulate some sort of master magical puppeteer who did not have to set things up this way, but still did, can only be considered inept or malicious.
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RE: Bloody poll: would you worship a God whose existence was certain?
January 9, 2014 at 1:19 pm
(January 9, 2014 at 12:57 pm)Clueless Morgan Wrote: (January 9, 2014 at 12:42 pm)Ivy Wrote: If not doing so would send me to eternal torture, yes. I'd worship. Though, inside I'd be doing this:
Add to this: What's this joker even done to deserve my worship?
And if God is going to submit me to eternal torture because my "worship" isn't sincere (because, you know, God is supposed to be omniscient and would know) than he's an asshole who shouldn't get the satisfaction of me even pretending to worship him.
You'd not do it, and rather be tortured? For real? Son of a bitch might not deserve my worshipin', but I certainly don't want to be tortured. Sounds cowardly, but meh. I'm not afraid to admit that if this were to actually happen, I'd be scared for my eternal life!
*runs around naked, arms in air, screamin' "I'm scurred!"
...but! So far, I'm pretty sure there is no god. Sooooooooo... fuck it. I must be clear, though, if there was a god, I'd be pretty darn pissed at the son of a bitch. I just don't find a point in trying to make myself feel all muscular and shit by thinking I'd be brave enough to encounter a lava lake and jump.
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RE: Bloody poll: would you worship a God whose existence was certain?
January 9, 2014 at 1:28 pm
(January 9, 2014 at 1:05 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Reality explains simply that both good shit and bad shit happen. Postulate some sort of master magical puppeteer who did not have to set things up this way, but still did, can only be considered inept or malicious.
If omniscient, then definitely malicious.
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RE: Bloody poll: would you worship a God whose existence was certain?
January 9, 2014 at 5:19 pm
(January 9, 2014 at 11:45 am)houseofcantor Wrote: Well, it is less ridiculous. I'm still wondering what this "worship" thing is. 
I wonder that too. I don't think it is an activity I engage in or know from experience. I adore my pets, family and some of my friends. But I don't worship them .. well, okay, maybe my old dog Fletcher .. a little .. but, naw, he was really just a drinking buddy in dog form.
With no experience bestowing worship I'm really at a loss to judge when I might want to start worshiping something. If all I wanted to do was avoid its wrath, I might consider how to appease it. But I'm not tossing any salad here, nor sacrificing any goats or .. well .. just what does worship consist of exactly?
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RE: Bloody poll: would you worship a God whose existence was certain?
January 9, 2014 at 5:21 pm
(January 9, 2014 at 1:19 pm)Ivy Wrote: (January 9, 2014 at 12:57 pm)Clueless Morgan Wrote: Add to this: What's this joker even done to deserve my worship?
And if God is going to submit me to eternal torture because my "worship" isn't sincere (because, you know, God is supposed to be omniscient and would know) than he's an asshole who shouldn't get the satisfaction of me even pretending to worship him.
You'd not do it, and rather be tortured? For real? Son of a bitch might not deserve my worshipin', but I certainly don't want to be tortured. Sounds cowardly, but meh. I'm not afraid to admit that if this were to actually happen, I'd be scared for my eternal life!
*runs around naked, arms in air, screamin' "I'm scurred!"
...but! So far, I'm pretty sure there is no god. Sooooooooo... fuck it. I must be clear, though, if there was a god, I'd be pretty darn pissed at the son of a bitch. I just don't find a point in trying to make myself feel all muscular and shit by thinking I'd be brave enough to encounter a lava lake and jump. How do you know you'd be tortured? How do you know Satan isn't actually a nice guy? The only evidence of that is the bible, which is supposedly written by god & god could be lying.
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RE: Bloody poll: would you worship a God whose existence was certain?
January 9, 2014 at 5:22 pm
(This post was last modified: January 9, 2014 at 5:28 pm by Whateverist.)
(January 9, 2014 at 1:19 pm)Ivy Wrote: (January 9, 2014 at 12:57 pm)Clueless Morgan Wrote: You'd not do it, and rather be tortured? For real? Son of a bitch might not deserve my worshipin', but I certainly don't want to be tortured. Sounds cowardly, but meh. I'm not afraid to admit that if this were to actually happen, I'd be scared for my eternal life!
*runs around naked, arms in air, screamin' "I'm scurred!"
...but! So far, I'm pretty sure there is no god. Sooooooooo... fuck it.
What about that demon under your bed? Or the boogy in the closet? Next thing you know the elves at the bottom of the garden will be shaking us down for spare worship.
(January 9, 2014 at 5:21 pm)MarxRaptor Wrote: How do you know you'd be tortured? How do you know Satan isn't actually a nice guy? The only evidence of that is the bible, which is supposedly written by god & god could be lying.
For that matter, if god's henchman Satan did torture you, how do you know you wouldn't like it? Maybe he is really good at laying that lash down in just the right spot. It might hurt so good you start worshiping Satan (what ever that means).
(January 9, 2014 at 5:22 pm)Kayenneh Wrote: [quote='whateverist' pid='579627' dateline='1389302388']
well .. just what does worship consist of exactly?
Getting naked and dancing under the full moon? 
I'm down. Lets worship all night then.
That was weird, I commented after K but it posted before. Is this an omen? Oh dear God, you knew we were only kidding, right?
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RE: Bloody poll: would you worship a God whose existence was certain?
January 9, 2014 at 5:22 pm
(January 9, 2014 at 5:19 pm)whateverist Wrote: well .. just what does worship consist of exactly?
Getting naked and dancing under the full moon?
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura
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RE: Bloody poll: would you worship a God whose existence was certain?
January 9, 2014 at 5:42 pm
Holy shit! Literally... What just happened with kay and Whatevs? Holy shit!
By the way, marx, I did say I'd hail the enemy, so...
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