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The simple truth
RE: The simple truth
Angel Cloud
(February 14, 2014 at 7:10 am)Esquilax Wrote:
(February 14, 2014 at 7:02 am)Tonus Wrote: Well, we have seen you try to save people (from themselves, mostly).

If any of you tries to crucify me, I'll see to it that Forum God is so pissed at you, you have no idea. Tongue

So pissed, you guys.

Hmmmm.....30 pieces of silver..... Now that could come in handy.... Anyone know where the Pharisees are at?
Kuusi palaa, ja on viimeinen kerta kun annan vaimoni laittaa jouluvalot!
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(February 14, 2014 at 9:09 am)max-greece Wrote: Angel Cloud
(February 14, 2014 at 7:10 am)Esquilax Wrote: If any of you tries to crucify me, I'll see to it that Forum God is so pissed at you, you have no idea. Tongue

So pissed, you guys.

Hmmmm.....30 pieces of silver..... Now that could come in handy.... Anyone know where the Pharisees are at?

I know where to find a Roman emperor, an egyptian god... but no pharisee... sorry.
Besides... my price would be a bit higher than that... throw in 3 pieces of gold and one of gold-pressed latinum (for the future interstellar exchanges). Tongue
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Or y'all could have the infinite riches of Forum Heaven by just not fucking crucifying me.

A little patience, apostles. Tongue
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Well that was cathartic
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(February 14, 2014 at 2:41 am)Esquilax Wrote:
(February 14, 2014 at 2:19 am)The Good News Wrote: Thank you for the correction. Though it could have been avoided if you had simply pointed it out in the last post as I requested. I have to say I do believe in abiogenesis. I believe God literally made man out of the dust of the ground. I also believe the Lord Jesus Christ rose from the dead, giving life to His dead body.

So, now the question becomes: do you accept that evolution happens now?

Quote:Also I'd like to ask, at what point have I berated anyone? To be honest it seems it has been others who have been berating me. Though if you show where it is you feel I have berated anyone I will apologise to that person.

Getting bombarded with bible verses is... well, it's basically getting beaten over the head with stuff that most of us already know, and have decided is untrue. It's an ineffective tactic, though I will give you credit for being gentler than most.

I believe if God wanted to turn a flea into an elephant He could do it. Absolutely. Though I do not believe, even for a second, that life evolved in the way that Darwin theorised.

Can I ask how you believe life began?

Also if you want to use quotes from outside sources it won't annoy me, and I definitely won't feel like I'm being berated. Even though I will definitely hold it as untrue if it contradicts the Bible.
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The problem with comparing the bible and scientific peer-reviewed articles, is that the articles are reliable, valid and accurate and (in most cases) demonstrably true, whereas the bible is not. The bible is made of translations of copies of copies of translations of copies of translations by anonymous authors. On many occasions it defies reality.

How do I think life began? I don't know. Scientists think it could be abiogenesis, or maybe some kind of seeding. Christians think that god magicked us here out of dirt.
I go for the answer with more explanatory power.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain

'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House

“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom

"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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(February 14, 2014 at 3:11 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: The problem with comparing the bible and scientific peer-reviewed articles, is that the articles are reliable, valid and accurate and (in most cases) demonstrably true, whereas the bible is not.
I think the most important difference is that we can "update science" when we do get it wrong. Humanity has "known" a lot of things that were wrong in the past, but we can correct that as we learn more. If your religious beliefs are given by a perfect and all-knowing god then they cannot be changed without seriously damaging the foundation of the entire belief system. The best you can do is claim that you "misunderstood what god was telling" you, but that only gets you so far.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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The bible is true cause the bible lies...
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