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RE: The simple truth
February 21, 2014 at 12:05 am
(February 20, 2014 at 11:31 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: Ok, rather, the atheist I've encountered, though that may be a small sample
Yet again you missed the point, or are refusing to address the real issue.
For the most part, you were not insulted at all until you were intentionally provocative. You came in here, kicked up the hornets nest, then acted appalled when the hornets stung you. If you only came here to proselytize and not discuss anything, save it, we've all heard it before, we're good. Take it from the most reliable source on this - you are not doing any good here. You're only making things worse from your end.
Try this: discussion. I know it's a novel concept, but this is a discussion forum. When someone challenges a post you made, address it specifically, rather than continuously quoting the Bible and missing the point.
If not - just stop.
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RE: The simple truth
February 21, 2014 at 12:35 am
(February 20, 2014 at 11:31 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: Ok, rather, the atheist I've encountered, though that may be a small sample
Okay, so the majority of the atheists you've encountered have been angry and insulting when you've talked to them, and for some reason you fail to consider that the other common element of those interactions- you- might be playing a part in that?
Let's be clear: this is a small sample size that, judging from your interactions here, you've intentionally manipulated into being angry by how uninterested you are in whatever they have to say, and how willing you are to strawman and misrepresent the things we believe in in order to get a mistaken upper hand.
Any insults you receive are a very natural human reaction to how you behave. It's got nothing to do with being an atheist.
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RE: The simple truth
February 21, 2014 at 2:59 am
Kuusi palaa, ja on viimeinen kerta kun annan vaimoni laittaa jouluvalot!
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RE: The simple truth
February 21, 2014 at 3:19 am
(This post was last modified: February 21, 2014 at 3:20 am by Ryantology.)
(February 20, 2014 at 3:41 pm)The Good News Wrote: When atheists try to tell a Christian that he is doing something wrong or unloving my only response can be, from where do you get your morals and will there be any major repercussions if one doesn't follow your morals? And I'm not speaking of crimes, I'm talking about such things as hatred or pride. Can an atheist really argue that these things are wrong? I believe it is foolish for an atheist if he attempts to do so.
The only external consequences for any wrong actions come from other people. Internal consequences depend on the strength of your conscience. Christians apparently need God as a substitute for their lack of one.
It would be weird to argue that pride or hatred are wrong, because there are circumstances in which neither is.
What you don't get is that you know the idea of objective morals is a lie. If you didn't, you would hold your god accountable for all of the instances in which he violated his own code of laws. You won't do that because you think the law doesn't apply to God.
Guess what that is? Moral relativism. And, a much more crass variety than our own.
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RE: The simple truth
February 21, 2014 at 5:59 am
(February 20, 2014 at 8:46 am)pocaracas Wrote: (February 20, 2014 at 7:28 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: I can have an organismic experiment in the office with chocolate.... Or ice cream ..... Or strawberries / blueberries...
I can't...
It's good and all, but not orgasmic.
Are you insane man?
The things I can do with strawberries and blueberries! 
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RE: The simple truth
February 21, 2014 at 6:05 am
(February 21, 2014 at 5:59 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: (February 20, 2014 at 8:46 am)pocaracas Wrote: I can't...
It's good and all, but not orgasmic.
Are you insane man?
The things I can do with strawberries and blueberries!
Insane... now there's a word I wouldn't use to describe myself... though... that is one of the signs.
What I know is that my taste buds have no bearing on my ability to orgasm...
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RE: The simple truth
February 21, 2014 at 6:05 am
Jesus? Why, I don't believe I've ever heard of this fellow. Do go on my good man, you seem to be an intelligent and rational person I should listen to.
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(September 17, 2015 at 4:04 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: I make change in the coin tendered. If you want courteous treatment, behave courteously. Preaching at me and calling me immoral is not courteous behavior.
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RE: The simple truth
February 21, 2014 at 9:05 am
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Christians only really have one moral and one immoral behavior to consider: If god says it is moral, then it is. If he says it is immoral, then it is. Aside from that, you are on your own. Hence, those Christians who display good or positive qualities would do so without god, because they already do. The reverse also applies. Which is why their fear that without god we would become lawless animals is unfounded.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: The simple truth
February 21, 2014 at 8:42 pm
(February 21, 2014 at 5:59 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: (February 20, 2014 at 8:46 am)pocaracas Wrote: I can't...
It's good and all, but not orgasmic.
Are you insane man?
The things I can do with strawberries and blueberries!
Oh, the stories I could tell you about how my Sam enjoyed her strawberries... 
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: The simple truth
February 22, 2014 at 4:04 am
"Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken."
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