Virgin Mary, Ark of the Covenant

[truthBtold]

Thunder, please be quiet. Jebus no likey when women talk.

Isn't Thunder male?

Both

[Silver]

Both

Hermaphrodite, really? Or are you just joking?

[truthBtold]

Both

Hermaphrodite, really? Or are you just joking?

J.k.

[Phatt Matt s]

Thunder, please be quiet. Jebus no likey when women talk.

Genesis 3:16
Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

1 Corinthians 11:3
But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

Ephesians 5:22-24
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

1 Timothy 2:11-15
Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing.

Now maybe go plan to make a pilgrimage to Italy and worship at the shrine of Jebus' Holy Prepuce. Some "scholars say" that the emperor Charlemagne was praying at the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem when an angel brought him the foreskin of Jesus. Later, he gave it to Pope Leo as a present. After passing through many hands, it finally landed in Calcata, Italy and had its own chapel. The Feast of the Holy Prepuce celebrates the circumcision of Jesus. The foreskin was reported to have been responsible for many wonderful miracles.

Fatima schmatima.
Celebrate Jebus' weeny.

I'm actually a Dude 




Lesbian in a man's body

[Silver]

J.k.

Okay, because I actually knew a hermaphrodite when I was younger. I wonder whatever happened to her.

[Phatt Matt s]

J.k.

Okay, because I actually knew a hermaphrodite when I was younger. I wonder whatever happened to her.

So if I have sexual relations with a hermaphrodite does that make me a homo?

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Also Bucky,
You're about as good of a Christian as me...or I probably wouldn't choose Cunt as one of the two words in my username.

[Ben Davis]

The fact that an immaculate conception is a biological impossibility, and one that has never been verifiably repeated, is claim enough of its falseness.

What was Hitchens' response?

"I'll grant you that it would be possible to track the pregnancy of the woman Mary, who's mentioned about three times in the Bible, and to show there was no male intervention in her life at all yet she delivered herself of a healthy baby boy; I don't say that's impossible. Parthenogenesis is not completely unthinkable. However that does not prove that his paternity is divine neither does it prove that any of his moral teachings were thereby correct."

[Silver]

So if I have sexual relations with a hermaphrodite does that make me a homo?

Only if the hermaphrodite identifies with and appears male, I would imagine. The hermaphrodite I knew had both sexual organs, but she looked more female than male. She could grow facial hair, but she was still decidedly female, even down to the breasts.

[Phatt Matt s]

I mock the Bible and Christ all the time so am not quite sure why I'm zealously defending what I myself often feel is bullshit

Actually, I'll tell ya why. It's because of how arrogantly you state your views and the views of the authors you love so much as if it is a fact that is known with complete certainty and then you go so far as to talk like it's common knowledge.

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When it comes to seeing "visions," I just think people see and hear what they wish. And to create cheesy tourist attractions out of supposedly "sacred" events tells me all I need to know about their validity.

It is not unlike the paranormal or UFO "sightings." People might see something "else" or hear something "else" and because a place has been dubbed as "haunted," will assume what they saw was of the paranormal variety.

I know that Fatima story, and unfortunately, it is a story just like the Bible.

You glossed over my comment about research showing how it wasn't uncommon for people prior to Jesus' time, to think that gods were impregnating virgins.

It really wasn't anything new as Christianity would have us believe. (the idea of gods impregnating mortals)

I actually recently spoke of Krishna, Horus, Mithras, and the details of their similarities to Christ.

[Bucky Ball]

There are some interesting similarities, but I actually don't buy that any one of the other ancient deities was THE precursor of Jesus. While the Egyptian saying "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life" was known to be copied (directly) from the Egyptian text, the Jesus that Paul invented was unique. (He did say he got his gospel "from no man" ... but from an hallucination.) It does have to do with Mithraism, (which was a form of Zoroastrianism) of which Tarsus (Paul's birthplace) *just happened* to be a center. It's a bit "obtuse" but it has to do with the concept "purification". In Hebrew culture, "purification" was an *external* (ritual-cleansing) concept. In Zorosastrian/Mithraism, it was internal (spiritual-cleanliness). They were very different. The Hebrews did not believe in immortality until it developed during the Apocalyptic period, after the Exile, when family units were disrupted, and the notion of "individualism" become important. Thus the Hebrew concept was CHANGED by Paul. It's some evidence he cooked up at least part of what came to be called "Christianity".