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(May 9, 2014 at 11:57 am)ChadWooters Wrote: I get it. You think Christianity isn't the answer. Then step up and answer the questions about your beliefs?
1) What is your highest hope?
To see the human race grow up and leave our adolescence behind, which is to say: to grab the stars instead of merely reach for them. To see the value of a human life not be measured by what kind of labor you are willing to sell, or how much money you have, or whether you worship the regionally-acceptable sky daddy, but by the compassion and care you show for your fellow man. To see an end to religion and money and scarcity.
2) Do you live your life as if determinism was true?
I live my life as if it doesn't matter, because it doesn't. Either I actually have the ability to subtly alter the progression of events, or I don't, but my ability to trace events backwards (and to use that model as a predictive tool) is so limited that apparently random events are, in a practical sense, actually random for me.
(May 8, 2014 at 11:10 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Do you mean the philosophy that we are slaves to our neurochemical desires? That's not a philosophy. That's neuroscience.
Are you then embracing the idea that you are a slave according to science?
(May 8, 2014 at 10:38 pm)Godschild Wrote: what kind of person does it take to tell someone else what they think and are,
The kind who understand that what the other person believes is not based on reality. Would you not rather escape the lies that tether you to a comforting fantasy?
I have no fantasy, it is those who believe God doesn't exist so they can live as they please who are living a fantasy.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
(May 9, 2014 at 11:11 pm)Godschild Wrote: I have no fantasy, it is those who believe God doesn't exist so they can live as they please who are living a fantasy.
GC
Logic and reason disagrees with you.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
May 9, 2014 at 11:16 pm (This post was last modified: May 9, 2014 at 11:18 pm by Godscreated.)
(May 8, 2014 at 10:41 pm)Bad Writer Wrote:
(May 8, 2014 at 10:38 pm)Godschild Wrote: Wrong, we are changed for God's work not our's and what kind of person does it take to tell someone else what they think and are, only one who believes the what I believey are self important.
GC
Me interpreting what you think based on what you write is only evidence of me interpreting what you think based on what you write. How does that play into my own sense of self-importance?
(May 8, 2014 at 10:38 pm)Godschild Wrote: They will be rejoicing in heaven for all eternity with God, while all those who reject Christ will be enduring their own self made torment.
GC
I can play this game all day. Your god's "plan" is only ever going to look like a piece of shit to those who have a shred of empathy for others.
Your arrogance goes beyond the believable, you not only presume you can determine what I believe, your self importance leads you to believe you know the mind of the omniscient God of creation.
GC
(May 9, 2014 at 11:15 pm)Kitanetos Wrote:
(May 9, 2014 at 11:11 pm)Godschild Wrote: I have no fantasy, it is those who believe God doesn't exist so they can live as they please who are living a fantasy.
GC
Logic and reason disagrees with you.
Actually logic and reason are on my side through the omniscient mind of God.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
(May 9, 2014 at 8:22 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote:
(May 9, 2014 at 11:57 am)ChadWooters Wrote: I get it. You think Christianity isn't the answer. Then step up and answer the questions about your beliefs?
1) What is your highest hope?
To see the human race grow up and leave our adolescence behind, which is to say: to grab the stars instead of merely reach for them. To see the value of a human life not be measured by what kind of labor you are willing to sell, or how much money you have, or whether you worship the regionally-acceptable sky daddy, but by the compassion and care you show for your fellow man. To see an end to religion and money and scarcity.
2) Do you live your life as if determinism was true?
I live my life as if it doesn't matter, because it doesn't. Either I actually have the ability to subtly alter the progression of events, or I don't, but my ability to trace events backwards (and to use that model as a predictive tool) is so limited that apparently random events are, in a practical sense, actually random for me.
Sorry but we wont live to see that, sending humanity to the stars right now would be like sending a 4 year old to walmart alone.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
(May 8, 2014 at 10:30 pm)Godschild Wrote: This is where you fail to know and understand God, we understand He already knows and we understand we can't hide anything from Him. So we do not need to try and put up a false front for God, it would do no good. In actuality we as Christians are to allow Jesus to make us who we need to be for Him and others, our self importance is to be put aside for the good of all.
No, this is where you fail to know and understand science(and the point I was making).
Every time you get the warm fuzzies from doing what you think Jesus wants for you, your brain is getting "high" on neurotransmitters. The pleasure you get from being a good little sheep is a neuro-chemical reward, and without it, pleasing Jesus would mean nothing to you. Your pious charade is nothing more than a self-serving attempt to stimulate the pleasure centers of your brain.
That's only an opinion, why, because sometimes working for God brings on suffering and hardship for the physical body, so your fuzzy just went up in smoke.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
(May 8, 2014 at 10:41 pm)Bad Writer Wrote: Me interpreting what you think based on what you write is only evidence of me interpreting what you think based on what you write. How does that play into my own sense of self-importance?
I can play this game all day. Your god's "plan" is only ever going to look like a piece of shit to those who have a shred of empathy for others.
Your arrogance goes beyond the believable, you not only presume you can determine what I believe, your self importance leads you to believe you know the mind of the omniscient God of creation.
GC
(May 9, 2014 at 11:15 pm)Kitanetos Wrote: Logic and reason disagrees with you.
Actually logic and reason are on my side through the omniscient mind of God.
GC
The extent of your delusion truly is astounding.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
May 9, 2014 at 11:25 pm (This post was last modified: May 9, 2014 at 11:29 pm by Rampant.A.I..)
(May 9, 2014 at 11:16 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(May 8, 2014 at 10:41 pm)Bad Writer Wrote: Me interpreting what you think based on what you write is only evidence of me interpreting what you think based on what you write. How does that play into my own sense of self-importance?
I can play this game all day. Your god's "plan" is only ever going to look like a piece of shit to those who have a shred of empathy for others.
Your arrogance goes beyond the believable, you not only presume you can determine what I believe, your self importance leads you to believe you know the mind of the omniscient God of creation.
GC
(May 9, 2014 at 11:15 pm)Kitanetos Wrote: Logic and reason disagrees with you.
Actually logic and reason are on my side through the omniscient mind of God.
GC
That's strange, as there's not a single ounce of logic or reason in this post, just bare assertion.
Your arrogance goes beyond the believable, you not only presume you can determine what I believe, your self importance leads you to believe you know the mind of the omniscient God of creation.
GC
Actually logic and reason are on my side through the omniscient mind of God.
GC
The extent of your delusion truly is astounding.
I wish I could agree.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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