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ignoramus · July 13, 2014 at 9:46 pm

(July 13, 2014 at 11:40 am)Blackout Wrote:

I'm shocked with this photo but at the same time strangely impressed that they spelt
"their" correctly.... ROFLOL

Dystopia · July 13, 2014 at 9:48 pm

(July 13, 2014 at 9:46 pm)ignoramus Wrote:
(July 13, 2014 at 11:40 am)Blackout Wrote:

I'm shocked with this photo but at the same time strangely impressed that they spelt
"their" correctly....

I am never shocked at seeing muslims in these kind of protests, it's like knowing 2+2=4

ignoramus · July 13, 2014 at 10:12 pm

Hey Blackout, I think you're a little rude here.
Poor old Stimbo's been waiting patiently waiting for an answer and you just jump the cue and demand answers from our well rounded nice guy friend "OceanWave".
Look on your left ...there's a ticket machine there ...grab one before they're gone!
He he.

Hey mods, I trust that the OP can't translate IPaddresses to street addresses?
The last thing I need is a jumbo in my garage!

~~Ibn Kamal~~ · (This post was last modified: July 13, 2014 at 10:40 pm by Ibn Kamal.)

"The Repentance - سورة التوبة
[9:5] And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah(taxes), let them go on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.
"

When you read a particular verse of the Quran, if it is not clear, you have to try and consider the context of a particular verse.

This verse refers to those pagans who would continue to fight after the period of peace. It clearly commands the Muslims to protect those who seek peace and are non-combatants. It is a specific verse with a specific ruling and can in no way be applied to general situations. The command of the verse was only to be applied in the event of a battle.

Therefore, if the pagans would not cease their hostilities towards the Muslims, then they were to be fought, especially since they were living in the land of an Islamic state.

This is all about self-defense, which Islam clearly emphasize on throughout the Quran. It's pure justice.

Thank you.

Peace.

**The Valkyrie** · (This post was last modified: July 13, 2014 at 10:54 pm by The Valkyrie.)

(July 13, 2014 at 10:39 pm)Ibn Kamal Wrote: "The Repentance - سورة التوبة
[9:5] And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah(taxes), let them go on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.
"

When you read a particular verse of the Quran, if it is not clear, you have to try and consider the context of a particular verse.

This verse refers to those pagans who would continue to fight after the period of peace. It clearly commands the Muslims to protect those who seek peace and are non-combatants. It is a specific verse with a specific ruling and can in no way be applied to general situations. The command of the verse was only to be applied in the event of a battle.

Therefore, if the pagans would not cease their hostilities towards the Muslims, then they were to be fought, especially since they were living in the land of an Islamic state.

This is all about self-defense, which Islam clearly emphasize on throughout the Quran. It's pure justice.

Thank you.

Peace.

You mean the conquest of North Africa, Spain, etc was "self defence"?

Yeah, right.

Is there such a think as pre-emptive self defence?

Oh, and assuming you're another sock account: BYEEEEE!

~~Ibn Kamal~~ · (This post was last modified: July 13, 2014 at 11:22 pm by Ibn Kamal.)

**The Valkyrie** · (This post was last modified: July 13, 2014 at 11:37 pm by Cyberman.)

**The Grand Nudger** · (This post was last modified: July 14, 2014 at 12:48 am by The Grand Nudger.)

Oh for fucks sake, another "consider the context" attempt? Is there anything yall won't crib from the christians? The context is simple, a desperate need to whitewash the history of a faith no more or less violent than any other on earth.

**Minimalist** · July 14, 2014 at 1:19 am

Quote:There is no doubt that ONCE, Islam was the height of scientific knowledge,

Yeah - that was then...and this

[Image: islamic-prayer.jpg]

is now.

Go Blow Allah Out Your Ass....which is a little tough on the guy behind you.

ignoramus · July 14, 2014 at 1:47 am

maybe they're all Milwaukee Bucks fans? just saying?

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