Why Would God Hide?

[MJ the Skeptical]

You're supposed to go along with the joke, not be part of it

[snowtracks]

Ok, let's entertain the notion that "God" is not hidden. So where is it? Give me something I can point to and compare against non-god things.

point of the story is that evidence via the 5 senses wouldn't be verifiable. one poster said they would have to ask a few questions first but that wouldn't help to establish proof.
the first 2 working together is plenty to establish God's existence; 3 and 4 is additional verification. some have a willful disbelief but feign an intellectual problem with the data, others admit the truth. of course there is problem with the truth, like the poet wrote: it like dust, it keeps hanging around, just can't get rid of the stuff.
1. " through nature --- for since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen.
2. through a person’s conscience - the spirit, or mind. the sense of right and wrong testifies.
3. scripture is the His revelation.
4. through the person of Jesus Christ."

[psychoslice]

I have no beliefs in a god, but if I was a god I would be hiding also, who could put up with all those nuts bringing their shopping lest and wanting this and that day and night.

[ShaMan]

Skidmarks...

[The Grand Nudger]

1. " through nature --- for since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen.
-what are those attributes specifically and where can they be clearly seen? In parasitic wasps, bot flies, and tapeworms perhaps?


2. through a person’s conscience - the spirit, or mind. the sense of right and wrong testifies.
-testifies to what, that they have a sense of right and wrong, what does that have to do with some second party?

3. scripture is the His revelation.
-which scripture, and how do you know that it is his revelation?

4. through the person of Jesus Christ."
-the person of whom? You know the guy, have talks...does he come over for beer and brats on sunday and bitch about the Buccs?

Your soul making theodicy from the last page, btw....you're probably going to want to ditch that if someone sinks their teeth into it. It will end up saying things about your god that are likely to be unacceptable to you.

[dissily mordentroge]

There is seldom anything to be gained in attempting to have a true believer see logic, especially if they imagine the texts they work from weren't authored by members of our species and have never been tampered with by the many opposed branches of Christianity.

[Tonus]

some have a willful disbelief but feign an intellectual problem with the data, others admit the truth.

You dodged my response to your earlier mention of those four points, then have the audacity to make a claim like this, then repeat the four points as if they haven't been challenged. I'm just pointing this out, so people can see just how much of a weasel you are.

[StealthySkeptic]

I have no beliefs in a god, but if I was a god I would be hiding also, who could put up with all those nuts bringing their shopping lest and wanting this and that day and night.

Bruce Almighty had an answer for that one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0cG11lTS1E

[snowtracks]

some have a willful disbelief but feign an intellectual problem with the data, others admit the truth.

You dodged my response to your earlier mention of those four points, then have the audacity to make a claim like this, then repeat the four points as if they haven't been challenged. I'm just pointing this out, so people can see just how much of a weasel you are.

those responses were absolutely brilliant but non-sequiturs.

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1. " through nature --- for since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen.
-what are those attributes specifically and where can they be clearly seen? In parasitic wasps, bot flies, and tapeworms perhaps?

2. through a person’s conscience - the spirit, or mind. the sense of right and wrong testifies.
-testifies to what, that they have a sense of right and wrong, what does that have to do with some second party?

3. scripture is the His revelation.
-which scripture, and how do you know that it is his revelation?

4. through the person of Jesus Christ."
-the person of whom? You know the guy, have talks...does he come over for beer and brats on sunday and bitch about the Buccs?

Your soul making theodicy from the last page, btw....you're probably going to want to ditch that if someone sinks their teeth into it. It will end up saying things about your god that are likely to be unacceptable to you.

2. conscience - what one is seeing in nature is confirmed by a person's mind/spirit that God is eternal.
3. scripture - by reading, one come to an understanding that humans are made in God's image and the end purpose of man is to give glory to God.
1 & 4 are derogatory.

[Tonus]

those responses were absolutely brilliant but non-sequiturs.

That's just more of the same. You don't want your thinking challenged, you just want to talk at us. The objections to your points do not go away just because you place your hand over the screen.