I was lost but now Im found

[SteelCurtain]

You can't be for real. You just can't be. I have a certain amount of faith in humanity that just doesn't allow for this to exist.

[Ryantology]

I think God sends twerps like this into our gentle embrace so that they can learn humility, for God has a track record of making bad decisions and not getting the results he wants.

[Spooky]

6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

If my grasp of the queens english is as good as I think it is (it is), that seems to only compare the word to a standard purity for metal. Doesn't seem to suggest it applies to the word itself.

And are you going to point out the hint for your gap theory?

Edit: This I think actually answers my previous question about why god's word needed purification. It doesn't. You should have been all over that. Still creates an issue with this being evidence for your "particular version theory".

Silver in the bible represents the word(see prov 10:20 with psal12:6-7)

The gap theory can be placed between verses Gen1:1 and 1:2. Its something that I havnt studied in depth but it certainly holds a lot of weight because God does skip time periods between certain verses in the Bible.

1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

You're taking reading between the lines much too literally. Also, you'd expect just a little continuity between the first and second lines of the bible. And by the way Void is an adjective (Descriptor) that means "Completely Empty". Which I'm sure means no fossils.

Proverbs 10:20- The tongue of the just is as choice silver: the heart of the wicked is little worth.

Another comparison to actual purity, but not the process (Or number of times required) or ever suggesting that the word needed purifying. This does not support the 7 versions theory. After looking, it doesn't even to seem to apply to "the word", but "The tongue of the just" which I mean to take "Just people"

When you add context:
19 In the multitude of words there wanteth not sin: but he that refraineth his lips is wise.

20 The tongue of the just is as choice silver: the heart of the wicked is little worth.

21 The lips of the righteous feed many: but fools die for want of wisdom.

It becomes clear that Proverbs 10:20 isn't talking about the word itself.

[dyresand]

6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

If my grasp of the queens english is as good as I think it is (it is), that seems to only compare the word to a standard purity for metal. Doesn't seem to suggest it applies to the word itself.

And are you going to point out the hint for your gap theory?

Edit: This I think actually answers my previous question about why god's word needed purification. It doesn't. You should have been all over that. Still creates an issue with this being evidence for your "particular version theory".

Silver in the bible represents the word(see prov 10:20 with psal12:6-7)

The gap theory can be placed between verses Gen1:1 and 1:2. Its something that I havnt studied in depth but it certainly holds a lot of weight because God does skip time periods between certain verses in the Bible.

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But you do believe something came from nothing, else where did your god come from? Did he always exist? In that case why save a step and say the universe always existed, after that conclusion is more supported and simpler then adding in god.

God defined Himself in scripture as I AM(Exo 3:14).

The Lord chose perfect english to define Himself with 2 simple words:
I AM.

God is present tense. God is past, present and future.

you mean Exo 3:14 he has all three of these names

Jehovah

And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them. Exodus 6:2-3

Jealous

For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God. Exodus 34:14
I am

And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. Exodus 3:14

in actuality you don't know gods real name i can give you a hint but never mind.

[Spooky]

1. We've established that there is a discrepancy between different versions of the bible. (Bad if you're trying to take it literally)
2. We've established that you cannot provide evidence for the version of your choosing.
2. We've established that you cannot take the bible both literally *and* read between the lines. As evidenced in trying to read between the lines for Gap theory, and take literally for word purity.

Your arguments today are invalid.

[tonyintheLight]

you mean Exo 3:14 he has all three of these names

Jehovah

And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them. Exodus 6:2-3

Jealous

For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God. Exodus 34:14
I am

And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. Exodus 3:14

in actuality you don't know gods real name i can give you a hint but never mind.

God has a number of names throughout Scripture, but I AM is a title which God chose as a title which cannot be restricted to any time period. Because God has always been.

[dyresand]

According to the bible, the Jews did not accept Jesus as their savior because he was not their savior.

No, they crucified Him in ignorance. They rejected there Messiah through spiritual blindness and the hardness of their hearts.

(John 4:25-27)The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.
26 Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.

(Luke 23:34a)Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.

Jesus came to spread peace, acceptance, understanding, and love.

(Luke 12:51) Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:

The savior of the Jews was a warrior, and Jesus was not that.

Jesus first coming was as a sacrificial lamb( John1:29).

Jesus second coming will be as a Lion (Rev 5:5)

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1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

You're taking reading between the lines much too literally. Also, you'd expect just a little continuity between the first and second lines of the bible. And by the way Void is an adjective (Descriptor) that means "Completely Empty". Which I'm sure means no fossils.

Proverbs 10:20- The tongue of the just is as choice silver: the heart of the wicked is little worth.

Another comparison to actual purity, but not the process (Or number of times required) or ever suggesting that the word needed purifying. This does not support the 7 versions theory. After looking, it doesn't even to seem to apply to "the word", but "The tongue of the just" which I mean to take "Just people"



you mean Exo 3:14 he has all three of these names

Jehovah

And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them. Exodus 6:2-3

Jealous

For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God. Exodus 34:14
I am

And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. Exodus 3:14

in actuality you don't know gods real name i can give you a hint but never mind.

God has a number of names throughout Scripture, but I AM is a title which God chose as a title which cannot be restricted to any time period. Because God has always been.

There are over 8000 alternate English renderings from Greek and Hebrew manuscripts that were identical.
The first example (Judges 19:2) below shows a place where the meaning of the Hebrew is obscure. Was it "4 months" or "a year and four months"??? Quite a difference! But the structure of the Hebrew makes it difficult to for any translators to know for sure which it is. So they show the alternate reading, NOT KNOWING THEMSELVES FOR SURE WHICH IS CORRECT!
No one questions the Greek and Hebrew is inspired. But if the translators were also inspired by the Holy Spirit, in their work of translating the inspired Hebrew into English, THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN GUIDED BY DIVINE INSPIRATION THE CORRECT RENDERING, hence no need for any alternate readings in the margin.
Remember, although we have only shown one example of this first type of marginal reading, there are over 8000 more we have not shown!
The New American Standard Bible is in the left hand column for reference

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According to the bible, the Jews did not accept Jesus as their savior because he was not their savior.

No, they crucified Him in ignorance. They rejected there Messiah through spiritual blindness and the hardness of their hearts.

(John 4:25-27)The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.
26 Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.

(Luke 23:34a)Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.

Jesus came to spread peace, acceptance, understanding, and love.

(Luke 12:51) Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:

The savior of the Jews was a warrior, and Jesus was not that.

Jesus first coming was as a sacrificial lamb( John1:29).

Jesus second coming will be as a Lion (Rev 5:5)

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1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

You're taking reading between the lines much too literally. Also, you'd expect just a little continuity between the first and second lines of the bible. And by the way Void is an adjective (Descriptor) that means "Completely Empty". Which I'm sure means no fossils.

Proverbs 10:20- The tongue of the just is as choice silver: the heart of the wicked is little worth.

Another comparison to actual purity, but not the process (Or number of times required) or ever suggesting that the word needed purifying. This does not support the 7 versions theory. After looking, it doesn't even to seem to apply to "the word", but "The tongue of the just" which I mean to take "Just people"



you mean Exo 3:14 he has all three of these names

Jehovah

And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them. Exodus 6:2-3

Jealous

For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God. Exodus 34:14
I am

And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. Exodus 3:14

in actuality you don't know gods real name i can give you a hint but never mind.

God has a number of names throughout Scripture, but I AM is a title which God chose as a title which cannot be restricted to any time period. Because God has always been.

There are over 8000 alternate English renderings from Greek and Hebrew manuscripts that were identical.
The first example (Judges 19:2) below shows a place where the meaning of the Hebrew is obscure. Was it "4 months" or "a year and four months"??? Quite a difference! But the structure of the Hebrew makes it difficult to for any translators to know for sure which it is. So they show the alternate reading, NOT KNOWING THEMSELVES FOR SURE WHICH IS CORRECT!
No one questions the Greek and Hebrew is inspired. But if the translators were also inspired by the Holy Spirit, in their work of translating the inspired Hebrew into English, THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN GUIDED BY DIVINE INSPIRATION THE CORRECT RENDERING, hence no need for any alternate readings in the margin.
Remember, although we have only shown one example of this first type of marginal reading, there are over 8000 more we have not shown!
The New American Standard Bible is in the left hand column for reference

[Spooky]

According to the bible, the Jews did not accept Jesus as their savior because he was not their savior.

No, they crucified Him in ignorance. They rejected there Messiah through spiritual blindness and the hardness of their hearts.

(John 4:25-27)The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.
26 Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.

(Luke 23:34a)Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.

Jesus came to spread peace, acceptance, understanding, and love.

(Luke 12:51) Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:

The savior of the Jews was a warrior, and Jesus was not that.

Jesus first coming was as a sacrificial lamb( John1:29).

Jesus second coming will be as a Lion (Rev 5:5)

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1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

You're taking reading between the lines much too literally. Also, you'd expect just a little continuity between the first and second lines of the bible. And by the way Void is an adjective (Descriptor) that means "Completely Empty". Which I'm sure means no fossils.

Proverbs 10:20- The tongue of the just is as choice silver: the heart of the wicked is little worth.

Another comparison to actual purity, but not the process (Or number of times required) or ever suggesting that the word needed purifying. This does not support the 7 versions theory. After looking, it doesn't even to seem to apply to "the word", but "The tongue of the just" which I mean to take "Just people"

When you add context:
19 In the multitude of words there wanteth not sin: but he that refraineth his lips is wise.

20 The tongue of the just is as choice silver: the heart of the wicked is little worth.

21 The lips of the righteous feed many: but fools die for want of wisdom.

It becomes clear that Proverbs 10:20 isn't talking about the word itself.

The KJV Bible also took 7 years to translate. God likes the number 7.

John Chapter 4:25-27
25 The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.

26 Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.

27 And upon this came his disciples, and marvelled that he talked with the woman: yet no man said, What seekest thou? or, Why talkest thou with her?

No mention of Jews.

Luke Chapter 23:33-35
33 And when they were come to the place, which is called Calvary, there they crucified him, and the malefactors, one on the right hand, and the other on the left.

34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.

35 And the people stood beholding. And the rulers also with them derided him, saying, He saved others; let him save himself, if he be Christ, the chosen of God.

No mention of Jews.

Not sure why Luke Chapter 12:51 is even relevent?

People in Vegas like 7 too. (I personally prefer 21). Dare I ask, aside from mathematical coincidences how we know god likes 7?


Edit: Are you just closing your eyes and picking at random now? Do you not expect anybody here to check your one and only source? You know what, I think I'm going to start quoting the book of Mormon to you.

[robvalue]

Quick bit of advice:

Stating something does not make it true, or even credible.

If all you want to discuss is what you "choose" to believe and cannot justify it in any rational way, then there's little point telling anyone else about it.

Check this out: I have the ultra-bible. It was written just before the bible, and it says what God is really like and that the bible is a fake. This is the real word of god, and came first. So it is true. Do I win?

[Thumpalumpacus]

I dont need to learn greek or hebrew to know that we have Gods preserved word in the 1611 KJV. God promised to preserve His word(Psa12:6-7)and the Lord has chosen the 1611 kings English as the language to present himself to the gentile nations. Gods has blessed the KJV, hence the 400 years it has endured and produced more fruit then any other Bible.

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Can you tell us how god communicated the fact that 1611 KJV is the correct one?

In early modern English, duh.