To The Christians...What Denomination Are You?

[Godscreated]

The Nietzsche thing was in response to something posted about him a few years ago, I wasn't trying to suggest he would go to hell.
The hell reference was due to a discussion about hell, that was a few years ago also.
Neither are meant to be condemning or threatening, they both however are true as far as my beliefs go.

GC

I would argue that you don't believe those statements - otherwise you would not include them as jokes in your signature. You say you believe those statements, because it's a requirement for your denomination, but your common sense tells you that those statements are a joke - cognitive dissonance.

No they are real, absolutely real, Nietzsche is dead and a stroll through hell would reveal much. So don't tell me what I believe, you are not a mind and heart reader. All I said about them, they were not intended to judge or offend. I'm sorry if you take offence to them but, that's you not my intentions.

GC

[dyresand]

I would argue that you don't believe those statements - otherwise you would not include them as jokes in your signature. You say you believe those statements, because it's a requirement for your denomination, but your common sense tells you that those statements are a joke - cognitive dissonance.

No they are real, absolutely real, Nietzsche is dead and a stroll through hell would reveal much. So don't tell me what I believe, you are not a mind and heart reader. All I said about them, they were not intended to judge or offend. I'm sorry if you take offence to them but, that's you not my intentions.

GC

Nietzsche is a honest atheist you cannot prove he is in heaven or hell. He wasn't person he felt that everyone should be equal. he made the assessment that god is dead for the Europeans and guess what he right because secularism leads the way of killing god in a sense.

The death of God may lead beyond bare perspectivism to outright nihilism, the belief that nothing has any inherent importance and that life lacks purpose. Here he states that the Christian moral doctrine provides people with intrinsic value, belief in God (which justifies the evil in the world) and a basis for objective knowledge. In this sense, in constructing a world where objective knowledge is possible, Christianity is an antidote to a primal form of nihilism—the despair of meaninglessness. As Heidegger put the problem, "If God as the suprasensory ground and goal of all reality is dead, if the suprasensory world of the ideas has suffered the loss of its obligatory and above it its vitalizing and upbuilding power, then nothing more remains to which man can cling and by which he can orient himself." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_N...d_nihilism

so he made a good point on his stance. and to say he is in hell a place that doesn't exist mind you is really harsh.

[Tonus]

Nietzsche is a honest atheist you cannot prove he is in heaven or hell.

But he is dead.

[dyresand]

Nietzsche is a honest atheist you cannot prove he is in heaven or hell.

But he is dead.

Well was a honest atheist.

[watchamadoodle]

I would argue that you don't believe those statements - otherwise you would not include them as jokes in your signature. You say you believe those statements, because it's a requirement for your denomination, but your common sense tells you that those statements are a joke - cognitive dissonance.

No they are real, absolutely real, Nietzsche is dead and a stroll through hell would reveal much. So don't tell me what I believe, you are not a mind and heart reader. All I said about them, they were not intended to judge or offend. I'm sorry if you take offence to them but, that's you not my intentions.

GC

O.k.

[vorlon13]

Just an aside to note the Mormons have schismed over 100 times in less than 200 years. And some of the 'spinoffs' are VERY adamant about the correctness of their particular franchise, and the falsity of all the others.

So I've read. But are any of the schisms of any real size? I've never met any but the main branch--at least not knowingly.

RLDS (currently Community of Christ) has 1/4 million. I think FLDS might be in the 10s of thousands.

An interesting point about some of the early (and now defunct) schisms like the Whitmerites and the Strangites is they were founded by very highly placed Mormons who ran afoul of Smith or Young. IIRC, more than one 'actual' witness to the gold plates or angels appearing to Joseph Smith later on apostacized or were excommunicated.

The group that founded the early settlement of Preparation, Iowa were led by a con man, although the followers took a while to figure that out.

The 100 schisms include groups that schismed from schisms. For instance, the Remnant Church has split from RLDS, and they split from LDS. I'm not sure if anyone has split from the Remnant Church, (I know a couple members) but if I hear of any, I'll post about it.


Here's an imperfect chart from Wiki (if it formats incorrectly I may have to delete it)

Current denominations or sub-groups in the Latter Day Saint movement
Primary — Secondary *
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
15 million (2013), about 98% of Latter Day Saint movement – Utah-based John Taylor
presided 1877–1887 Brigham Young
presided 1844–1877
Joseph Smith, Jr.
presided 1830–1844[a]
Community of Christ
250,000 (2011), about 2% of Latter Day Saint movement – Missouri-based Wallace B. Smith
presided 1978–1996 Joseph Smith III
presided 1860–1914

Smaller *
The Church of Jesus Christ (Bickertonite)
19,029 members (Dec.31,2012) – Pennsylvania-based William Bickerton
presided 1862–1880 Sidney Rigdon
presided 1844–1847[b]
Church of Christ With the Elijah Message
over 12,000 members (1998) – Missouri-based William Draves
presided 1943–1994
Apostolic United Brethren
approximately 10,000 members (1998)– Utah-based John Woolley / Lorin Woolley
presided 1918–1928 / 1928–1934
Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints
approximately 10,000 members (2011) – Utah-based
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— Additional fundamentalist denominations —
RLDS/Restoration Branches which have created the
Joint Conference of Restoration Branches
6,000–7,000 members[c] (2010) – Missouri-based
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— Additional Restoration Branch groupings —
Church of Christ (Fettingite)
2,000 members (1988); Missouri-based Otto Fetting
presided 1927–1933
Church of Christ (Temple Lot)
2,400 members (1998) – Missouri-based Granville Hedrick
presided 1863–1881
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— Additional Temple Lot – derived denominations —
Minuscule, founded in the 19th century *†

Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Strangite)
300 members (1998) – Wisconsin-based James Strang
presided 1844–1856
Church of Jesus Christ (Cutlerite)
approximately 12 members (2010) – Missouri-based Alpheus Cutler
presided 1853–1864