AFA: Impregnated by a rapist? "Why kill a child made in God’s image?"

[Violet]

I've always wondered why a "life" conceived by a sexual assaulter is worth less than one conceived with full consent - Are people implying that someone's worth is dictated by who conceives you?

The children of a rapist can indeed be wonderful human beings... and it's entirely valid to still want a baby born regardless of who the father is.

But... these calls need to be made by the carrier of said baby. Many might see it as one more way that the rape has fucked up their life, some might not have even the slightest issue with it.

... Can be a gamble, though... uncertain genetics or potentially rape-inclined... I'd say it bears investigating. Maybe it already has been.

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Oh you atheists, and your concern over chattle. I mean women. Just take the fifty silver for your daughter's rape, and be done with it.

Modern economy, Frank... I'll be having my twentyfiveK USD.

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It comes down to a choice and nothing else, no lady should have to even remotely say the reason why she is there to terminate her unborn foetus. All hail bodily autonomy!

Hell yeah! Preach it, Sister!

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Besides, who ever claimed that Congress acts rationally and without hypocrisy. Seriously.

U...umm... I did. Once. Please don't hate me I relive that day every night in my sleepstallions

[Chas]

That is one of the most monstrous and cruel goddamn things I've ever heard. What is on display here is zero empathy or humanity toward victims of either rape or incest. A fertilized egg equals life to these people, but they don't give a fuck about an actual human suffering through something so soul-wrenching and wretched that we cannot even imagine it.

It's even more disgusting that according to US laws, the rapist has certain rights concerning the child. So the woman not only would be forced to have the child of a monster, but also to grant that monster access to that child.

The rapist couldn't do that if dead. Just sayin'.

[Chad32]

It's too bad that in some places when they start talking about honor killings after someone was raped, it's the victim they kill instead of the "holy" man.

[Dystopia]

... Can be a gamble, though... uncertain genetics or potentially rape-inclined... I'd say it bears investigating. Maybe it already has been.

Unlike serial killers, there's no conclusive evidence that rapists are more likely to be psychopaths - That's a myth, just like the myth that rape is mostly practised by strangers - It's not, the perpetrators can be husbands, boyfriends, and it happens in locations the victim once felt safe, the case of the creepy guy who jumps behind the bushes and rapes you is rare compared to situations of rape carried by men (mostly males) that the victim once trusted...

All of this to say, and I'd bet my head on it - Most rapists are probably regular Johns with no relevant psychological or psychic problems, and evidence for that would be that in highly patriarchal societies rape is more prevalent (look at India) - Which leads to the conclusion that social acceptance and disregard for rape, as well as sexual entitlement to the victim's body and a the feeling of power and domination (that the perpetrator feels owed too) are the primary causes of rape. So no, I don't think there's actually probability of the child being a rapist just because the dad was too, as long as he/she isn't educated in a society that makes rape something acceptable.

We could say India has more psychopaths, but I doubt it - Psychopathy, on the other hand, is something that can be genetically inherited, despite the fact that the common cause is a childhood trauma - We have that example from the TV series Dexter - But psychopathy doesn't equal being a rapist, and being a rapist doesn't even equal being intelligent or some kind of highly aggressive strong predator - I'm sure the average rapist in countries dominated by Islam is just a regular Joe who thinks it's completely normal to rape his wife and therefore he does it.

[robvalue]

Also, it's not going to be nice for the child to learn about its origins. You could lie to it sure, but it may find out one day even if you do.

[Violet]

All of this to say, and I'd bet my head on it - Most rapists are probably regular Johns with no relevant psychological or psychic problems, and evidence for that would be that in highly patriarchal societies rape is more prevalent (look at India) - Which leads to the conclusion that social acceptance and disregard for rape, as well as sexual entitlement to the victim's body and a the feeling of power and domination (that the perpetrator feels owed too) are the primary causes of rape. So no, I don't think there's actually probability of the child being a rapist just because the dad was too, as long as he/she isn't educated in a society that makes rape something acceptable.

Well hey, refine a point to me, and learn me something new.

Probably more about the 'feeling owed'/having power over another than it is about patriarchy... it's important to remember that women can (and do) rape too. Usually overwhelming with emotional/psychological manipulation (blackmail for instance) that can leave the victim feeling just as powerless as physical might.

[robvalue]

Probably the amount of rapes done by women is higher than reported, because men may be embarrassed to report it.

That's just a guess.

[Violet]

Also, it's not going to be nice for the child to learn about its origins. You could lie to it sure, but it may find out one day even if you do.

Lots of kids with deadbeat or absent fathers. Unless the mother guilts the kid for the crime of their father (who is more than likely either her ex, husband, or similar)... it shouldn't be much of a problem. Not if she raises 'em pretty secure and they're reasonably mature before she drops that bomb on them.

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Probably the amount of rapes done by women is higher than reported, because men may be embarrassed to report it.

That's just a guess.

Plenty of emasculating funstuff, and almost zero acceptance socially for a battered husband. Trapped in their own head, hearing echoes again and again of how worthless they are...

As I said: fun. stuff.

[Dystopia]

All of this to say, and I'd bet my head on it - Most rapists are probably regular Johns with no relevant psychological or psychic problems, and evidence for that would be that in highly patriarchal societies rape is more prevalent (look at India) - Which leads to the conclusion that social acceptance and disregard for rape, as well as sexual entitlement to the victim's body and a the feeling of power and domination (that the perpetrator feels owed too) are the primary causes of rape. So no, I don't think there's actually probability of the child being a rapist just because the dad was too, as long as he/she isn't educated in a society that makes rape something acceptable.

Well hey, refine a point to me, and learn me something new.

Probably more about the 'feeling owed'/having power over another than it is about patriarchy... it's important to remember that women can (and do) rape too. Usually overwhelming with emotional/psychological manipulation (blackmail for instance) that can leave the victim feeling just as powerless as physical might.

I think rapes perpetuated by men against men are a more relevant point - I think women are more commonly than people think authors of domestic abuse (psychological) because domestic violence is not only physical as some might think - But it depends on the State law. Females can rape trough coercion but it's not as relevant or problematic.. Rapes against men by other men are disregarded as shameful and victims are afraid to report it - Which is a result of excessive manhood and masculinity culture - "Getting pounded in the ass is a faggot thing don't tell anyone".

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All of this to say, and I'd bet my head on it - Most rapists are probably regular Johns with no relevant psychological or psychic problems, and evidence for that would be that in highly patriarchal societies rape is more prevalent (look at India) - Which leads to the conclusion that social acceptance and disregard for rape, as well as sexual entitlement to the victim's body and a the feeling of power and domination (that the perpetrator feels owed too) are the primary causes of rape. So no, I don't think there's actually probability of the child being a rapist just because the dad was too, as long as he/she isn't educated in a society that makes rape something acceptable.

Well hey, refine a point to me, and learn me something new.

Probably more about the 'feeling owed'/having power over another than it is about patriarchy... it's important to remember that women can (and do) rape too. Usually overwhelming with emotional/psychological manipulation (blackmail for instance) that can leave the victim feeling just as powerless as physical might.

I think rapes perpetuated by men against men are a more relevant point - I think women are more commonly than people think authors of domestic abuse (psychological) because domestic violence is not only physical as some might think - But it depends on the State law. Females can rape trough coercion but it's not as relevant or problematic.. Rapes against men by other men are disregarded as shameful and victims are afraid to report it - Which is a result of excessive manhood and masculinity culture - "Getting pounded in the ass is a faggot thing don't tell anyone".

[Violet]

I think rapes perpetuated by men against men are a more relevant point - I think women are more commonly than people think authors of domestic abuse (psychological) because domestic violence is not only physical as some might think - But it depends on the State law. Females can rape trough coercion but it's not as relevant or problematic.. Rapes against men by other men are disregarded as shameful and victims are afraid to report it - Which is a result of excessive manhood and masculinity culture - "Getting pounded in the ass is a faggot thing don't tell anyone".

Sure, more prevalent... but being taken forcibly by your wife is only a good thing in much of society's eyes, and it can be just as hard to find support... different types of suffering... different set of emotional pressure points to push.

But you're right, I was conflating domestic abuse with rape... it's just.... it's hard to not see it all as horrific suffering dealt to one's fellows, regardless of its stripes.