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RE: Can you make a God claim?
January 14, 2015 at 6:30 am
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Yeah, to sum up, no one has made a testable god claim. My hypothesis was that it is impossible, and I feel more confident that this is the cause. As soon as any supernatural elements are included in a claim, it becomes untestable right away. Chad has a different set of rules which none of us understand.
Other people also make vague statements about being able to test things in ways other than scientifically, but I've seen no demonstration that this even makes sense.
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RE: Can you make a God claim?
January 14, 2015 at 6:57 pm
(January 14, 2015 at 6:21 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Pick_up, are you retreating into conceptualism?
Do you have any examples of universals in which their truth is not due to necessity of logical construct but established on the basis of judgment acquired and guided by sense perception?
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RE: Can you make a God claim?
January 14, 2015 at 11:24 pm
Plant god claim stands as best claim.
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RE: Can you make a God claim?
January 15, 2015 at 12:17 am
An example of a universal truth based on an opinion rather than science.
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RE: Can you make a God claim?
January 15, 2015 at 1:40 am
(This post was last modified: January 15, 2015 at 1:42 am by Mudhammam.)
(January 14, 2015 at 11:56 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Please restate the question. Not sure for what you are asking.
On what grounds can you demonstrate that your universals are not simply hypothetical? If you reply that it is through conception, you've "retreated." If you have evidence we can examine in the real world, now would be a good time to share it.
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