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Is Islam a sexist religion?
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RE: Is Islam a sexist religion?
(January 9, 2015 at 2:52 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote:
(January 9, 2015 at 2:50 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I think it is sexist, but some people (Muslims) would probably say they are equal but given different roles.

It's the same mooing that Christians and Jews make. They see the sexes as "equal" because both have roles to fill, which invariably are women being subservient to men. They see conforming to roles as "equality".

Do Christians and Jews believe the wife must obey the husband?
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RE: Is Islam a sexist religion?
(January 9, 2015 at 2:50 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I think it is sexist, but some people (Muslims) would probably say they are equal but given different roles.

They would probably be completely biased or simply liars.
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RE: Is Islam a sexist religion?
There are some Muslim scholars on youtube debating how you should "discipline" your wife that would disagree with you
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RE: Is Islam a sexist religion?
(January 9, 2015 at 2:55 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(January 9, 2015 at 2:52 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: It's the same mooing that Christians and Jews make. They see the sexes as "equal" because both have roles to fill, which invariably are women being subservient to men. They see conforming to roles as "equality".

Do Christians and Jews believe the wife must obey the husband?

Some of them do, yes. Some of them are very insistent that a woman must submit to her husband and that her place is in the home.
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RE: Is Islam a sexist religion?
(January 9, 2015 at 2:53 pm)Natachan Wrote: http://www.islamreview.com/articles/WOME...IBLE.shtml

I especially like being called "uncovered meat." It's very uplifting.

I think that link made my eyes bleed a little.
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RE: Is Islam a sexist religion?
(January 9, 2015 at 2:55 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(January 9, 2015 at 2:52 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: It's the same mooing that Christians and Jews make. They see the sexes as "equal" because both have roles to fill, which invariably are women being subservient to men. They see conforming to roles as "equality".

Do Christians and Jews believe the wife must obey the husband?

Christians do. I'm not well educated on Judaism so I won't comment.
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#17
RE: Is Islam a sexist religion?
(January 9, 2015 at 2:55 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(January 9, 2015 at 2:52 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: It's the same mooing that Christians and Jews make. They see the sexes as "equal" because both have roles to fill, which invariably are women being subservient to men. They see conforming to roles as "equality".

Do Christians and Jews believe the wife must obey the husband?

Hah, good one. Of course they do. The father also owns the body of the daughter.

(January 9, 2015 at 2:57 pm)Spooky Wrote:
(January 9, 2015 at 2:55 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Do Christians and Jews believe the wife must obey the husband?

Christians do. I'm not well educated on Judaism so I won't comment.

A ton of the fundie christian marriage conduct codes are in the OT, jews follow 'em too.
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#18
RE: Is Islam a sexist religion?
(January 9, 2015 at 2:55 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Do Christians and Jews believe the wife must obey the husband?

Pretty much.

But that's what you get when men create religion.
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RE: Is Islam a sexist religion?
(January 9, 2015 at 2:47 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Isn't that like asking if the sun is bright?

I mean, much of the foundation of Islam appears to be that a man must submit to a woman. That's textbook sexism.

Well shit, somebody ought to tell them they're doing it wrong. Tongue
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RE: Is Islam a sexist religion?
(January 9, 2015 at 2:57 pm)Blackout Wrote: There are some Muslim scholars on youtube debating how you should "discipline" your wife that would disagree with you

My wife has a kimber solo, screw that...
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