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RE: Christians. Prove That You Are Real/True Christians
January 14, 2015 at 1:31 am
(January 14, 2015 at 1:21 am)rexbeccarox Wrote: (January 14, 2015 at 1:13 am)Drich Wrote: One must follow the canonical teachings of Christ. How hard is that?
I mean if you follow the doctrinal teachings of "Moroni" your a Mormon.
If you follow the doctrinal teachings of (pnbuh) mo-hammy, your a muslim.
If you follow Christ, your a Christian. Are you still confused?
Mormons also follow Jesus Christ (uhhh... Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints). Are you still confused? we have had this discussion ad nausium ca-rox. The jesus of Mormonism just shares a name and title with the Jesus of the bible. They have a whole different back story, they are two different types of beings.
one a literal part of An infinite God, the other just some dude born, lived a good long life, died and was judged to be one of the most faithful in his religion, elevated to the rank of son of God (which btw was just some other guy who was faithful to the Mormons 'in the time before' and was awarded his own planet to be God over.
Sooo, no. Not the same Jesus, hence the 'latter day saints.' The saints/latter day prophets draw a completely different religion, but use the same names.
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RE: Christians. Prove That You Are Real/True Christians
January 14, 2015 at 1:34 am
(January 14, 2015 at 1:13 am)Drich Wrote: (January 12, 2015 at 4:46 pm)Nope Wrote: After reading a thread started by Drich, I realized that I have no idea who is a real/true Christians. You all my think that you are the real deal but be wrong. So, please tell me the requirements for being a Christian.
One must follow the canonical teachings of Christ. How hard is that?
I mean if you follow the doctrinal teachings of "Moroni" your a Mormon.
If you follow the doctrinal teachings of (pnbuh) mo-hammy, your a muslim.
If you follow Christ, your a Christian. Are you still confused?
Okay. I understand, only those who can read can become Christian. Got it. Obviously, salvation is so difficult that you can't explain it in your own words.
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RE: Christians. Prove That You Are Real/True Christians
January 14, 2015 at 2:10 am
(January 14, 2015 at 1:34 am)Nope Wrote: (January 14, 2015 at 1:13 am)Drich Wrote: One must follow the canonical teachings of Christ. How hard is that?
I mean if you follow the doctrinal teachings of "Moroni" your a Mormon.
If you follow the doctrinal teachings of (pnbuh) mo-hammy, your a muslim.
If you follow Christ, your a Christian. Are you still confused?
Okay. I understand, only those who can read can become Christian. Got it. Obviously, salvation is so difficult that you can't explain it in your own words.
The illiterate go to hell is what i am guessing so... well damn there goes the southern states and its low reading score statistical people.
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RE: Christians. Prove That You Are Real/True Christians
January 14, 2015 at 2:13 am
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(January 12, 2015 at 4:46 pm)Nope Wrote: After reading a thread started by Drich, I realized that I have no idea who is a real/true Christians. You all my think that you are the real deal but be wrong. So, please tell me the requirements for being a Christian.
That's so easy to do and you know the answer but, here it is. I'm a believer in Jesus Christ as God's Messiah. Born of a virgin and died on a cross for my sins, rose from the grave to give me hope in eternal life. Lived a sinless life as a man, was killed as a man and saved me as the God he is. He's the Creator who knew He would have to give His life for the very ones He created, because He loved us so much. Once a Christian, it's easy to give an account for ones belief, before one becomes a Christian they can say these same words, but they will not be able to live them, scripture tells us this.
GC
(January 13, 2015 at 1:25 pm)Nope Wrote: Except for Chadwooters, theists have not come to this thread to explain what a true Christian is.
Considering that Drich felt so strong about the issue that he started two threads because he was annoyed we used the term Christian for Mormons and Catholics, this should be a discussion tailored made for him.
I have a theory that he and some of the Christians on this site don't want to define the term because they like claiming that anything they dislike is not Christian and they are frightened that we would hold them to any definition that they wrote out. If they said that a real Christian believes Jesus is the son of god and is part of the Trinity, we would ask how they can call Catholics nonChristian.
If you aren't afraid, please write in your own words, the bare minimum requirements to be Christian.
Please notice I said some Christians. I am not lumping you all together.
I hope you weren't putting me in that lump, I read this after I posted what I believe, I didn't post about this until now because I haven't had the time. I knew it was here earlier and just now found time to reply.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Christians. Prove That You Are Real/True Christians
January 14, 2015 at 3:25 am
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(January 12, 2015 at 4:46 pm)Nope Wrote: After reading a thread started by Drich, I realized that I have no idea who is a real/true Christians. You all my think that you are the real deal but be wrong. So, please tell me the requirements for being a Christian.
And who's going to judge?
I've found that there's a very wide definition that can be applied. When I became a Christian... was born again and changed my life to follow Christ, I thought that was pretty much all there was. I knew of Catholicism and also that those weren't Christian in the same way. I've since learnt that some Catholics are born again too. And further, I've evolved to accept all expression of the divine.
Then there are the non trinitarian bunch.
Which are actual Christians?? All are. You just need to be more accurate. I'm an active Protestant Christian. I identify closely with all other Christians who acknowledge the Niceen creed.
(January 12, 2015 at 4:56 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: They can heal by just a laying on of the hands.
They can handle serpents and drink deadly things and not die.
They hate their parents with a Godly hate.
They hate figs.
They can't be divorced and remarried.
I think they are supposed to shut up their women folk for like 2 weeks at least when they are filthy with the menstruation discharge too.
Icky gross !!!!
I think you got confused with Jewish prophets and their charges :p
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RE: Christians. Prove That You Are Real/True Christians
January 14, 2015 at 12:50 pm
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(January 14, 2015 at 12:53 am)Nope Wrote: Thank you very much for answering.
What if someone is illiterate? They can't study the scriptures.
Most of the early christians were illiterate. It was given to them orally by apostles and teachers. Also through the centuries those who couldn't read were able to listen as it was read to them. Bible readings are a normal part of Sunday church services and there are also bible studies.
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RE: Christians. Prove That You Are Real/True Christians
January 14, 2015 at 1:17 pm
(January 14, 2015 at 1:31 am)Drich Wrote: (January 14, 2015 at 1:21 am)rexbeccarox Wrote: Mormons also follow Jesus Christ (uhhh... Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints). Are you still confused? we have had this discussion ad nausium ca-rox. The jesus of Mormonism just shares a name and title with the Jesus of the bible. They have a whole different back story, they are two different types of beings.
one a literal part of An infinite God, the other just some dude born, lived a good long life, died and was judged to be one of the most faithful in his religion, elevated to the rank of son of God (which btw was just some other guy who was faithful to the Mormons 'in the time before' and was awarded his own planet to be God over.
Sooo, no. Not the same Jesus, hence the 'latter day saints.' The saints/latter day prophets draw a completely different religion, but use the same names.
Bullshit! I've provided you links from the LDS themselves explaining that they are unequivocally Christians who worship and follow Christ. Just because you choose to ignore it doesn't make it untrue.
Also, we've had this discussion ad nauseum because you've started three of the same fucking thread.
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RE: Christians. Prove That You Are Real/True Christians
January 14, 2015 at 1:49 pm
I am throwing my hat into the ring by saying I agree totally with Drich on this topic.
Personally trusting what Jesus Himself did for us, in our place (not in doctrines of men/ church activities/ sacraments/ titles/ apparitions/ organizations/ supposed divine revelations) is Christianity.
Satan has used Christian terms within his concoctions to deceive people with false revelations and false religion.
Those who absolutely want the truth more than they want comfort, will wade thru his crap to find it.
For that reason, as Jesus said, the Way is narrow- constricted by pressure.
The devil is delighted to have all kinds of falsehoods (inspired by him) lumped into the term "Christianity".
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RE: Christians. Prove That You Are Real/True Christians
January 14, 2015 at 1:51 pm
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RE: Christians. Prove That You Are Real/True Christians
January 14, 2015 at 2:49 pm
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(January 14, 2015 at 1:49 pm)professor Wrote: I am throwing my hat into the ring by saying I agree totally with Drich on this topic.
Personally trusting what Jesus Himself did for us, in our place (not in doctrines of men/ church activities/ sacraments/ titles/ apparitions/ organizations/ supposed divine revelations) is Christianity.
Satan has used Christian terms within his concoctions to deceive people with false revelations and false religion.
Those who absolutely want the truth more than they want comfort, will wade thru his crap to find it.
For that reason, as Jesus said, the Way is narrow- constricted by pressure.
The devil is delighted to have all kinds of falsehoods (inspired by him) lumped into the term "Christianity".
"For God so loved the world that he gave His only begotten archenemy, Satan, to confuse the faithful, that whomsoever shall believe the lies of a fallen archangel shall not perish, but be tormented for all eternity ... while He watches the big game and makes sure the right team scores."
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