Anybody up for an arguement against my Christian beliefs?

[fr0d0]

Such a momentous task. I'm sure you're up to it TD

[chatpilot]

Ramen Noodles, welcome to the neighborhood lol. I think this roller coaster is broken.

[Ramen Noodles]

Thanks for your opinions guys, as I mentioned before this is just for an assignment. I honestly don't know how to be an apologist. Some of you guys might think of us as simple minded idiots, but that is only some Christians. For those people who tend to use harsh words that tend to consider me an idiot, I really hope you have better things to do in real life than that. I understand that this forum is about sharing and opposing beliefs, but nobody needs to be cybernetic douche bag. I have my beliefs and I am not intending on trying to change anybody or myself.

[Shell B]

nobody needs to be cybernetic douche bag

I could be wrong, but I don't think cybernetic was the word you were looking for.

[Violet]

Hey i'm not the type of guy that is trying to conver anybody, just debate. I'm only doing this for a class project, I don't ever expect to be a missionary. We aren't all high and might smart asses, those guys are just some self righteous jerks that people can look through. Those Christians make my whole religion look bad.

So you don't deny evolution, I take?

Which class project is this?

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Thanks for your opinions guys, as I mentioned before this is just for an assignment. I honestly don't know how to be an apologist. Some of you guys might think of us as simple minded idiots, but that is only some Christians. For those people who tend to use harsh words that tend to consider me an idiot, I really hope you have better things to do in real life than that. I understand that this forum is about sharing and opposing beliefs, but nobody needs to be cybernetic douche bag. I have my beliefs and I am not intending on trying to change anybody or myself.

If you don't know how to be an apologist... I can sum it up in one sentence:

Be as vague and open to interpretation as possible... and focus on one point at a time.

[tavarish]

nobody needs to be cybernetic douche bag

I could be wrong, but I don't think cybernetic was the word you were looking for.

I think he was right on the money.

Here's a recent photo of him:



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[leo-rcc]

Hey i'm not the type of guy that is trying to conver anybody, just debate. I'm only doing this for a class project, I don't ever expect to be a missionary.

Are you in Dembski's class by any chance?

[Knight]

Ramen, just post the points you'd wish to discuss, preferably one at a time so you aren't overwhelmed with 10+ pages of responses to everything, at which point arguments may be lost in the clutter. You don't have to ask for debate. You could have simply opened with your first post, plus "Here is the specific topic I'd wish us to discuss: the scientific validity of the Bible"
That's just one potential topic. You could want a debate on contradictions in the Bible, atrocities in the Bible, the possibility (or lack thereof) of certain Gods, the difference between your version of Christianity and mainstream Christianity and whether or not it is valid/consistent with the Bible (none can be completely consistent due to the mixed messages the Bible sends), the historical validity of the Bible, the validity of prayer...the topics could keep going. If you want a debate, you have to post your assertions. As a theological noncognitivist, I have yet to see someone ever coherently define what God even is.

[Eilonnwy]

Its too unlikely of a coincidence that us humans and our world was made so perfect without some sort of personal work in the making. It has been stated that personal can only made by something personal, the impersonal are just tools of creation.

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Argument from presonal incredulity! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_fr...ncredulity

Want to showcase another fallacy?

Also, Blind watchmaker argument taking another form. http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php?t...rom_design

[Minimalist]

He's too dumb to understand evolution. For him, better to believe in his sky-daddy. You wouldn't want him to sprain his brain, would you?

Isn't that the worst part of debating a Christian? Not only do you have to debate the obvious flaws of believing in invisible things, but you have to educate them on basic scientific principle. Unfair to say the least.

Pretty much, yes.

I guess at some level I'm disturbed by the fact that 21st century humans still think like 8th century peasants.