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Ken Ham files lawsuit against Kentucky
#61
RE: Ken Ham files lawsuit against Kentucky
That is the strangest education and experience requirement I've ever seen for a secular job position.
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#63
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Yeah, like I said earlier, I can see some of the positions being exempt from Title VII, but janitors, programmers, ticket-takers ... sounds like hard sledding for Ham with jobs like the above.

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#64
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Punctuality essential.
Must not be a darky or a bender.
Needs good IT skills.
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I may be a little leftist on this but I think employers, owners and managers shouldn't be able to discriminate based on irrelevant factors for the job. Simply put, the fact someone is an atheist and someone is a Christian is a verifiable difference, but it is a meaningless difference to execute the job correctly. I'm talking about the traditional western job when the worker must do an activity and as a benefit receives retribution. Discriminating people once or twice seems harmless but can lead to the creation and segregation of certain groups of people, statistically raising unemployment disproportionally

If it's activities associated specifically with a religious institution like the Church, I can understand the discrimination, or if it's an association (non-profit) for only certain groups of people (i.e. A Christian can't join an atheist club, duh!)

On a side-note, I think no one really wants to work in Ken Ham's Ark - I mean, what the actual fuck? I've only heard him speaking for 5 minutes and I've already noticed he's the kind of person who doesn't need refutation, he fucks everything up alone. "As a Christian, I believe the bible is the word of God, and God is right bla bla bla"
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Quote:A proven firmness in one’s walk with Christ, evident through a personal life that is above reproach, with an “ambition to lead a quiet life and attend to your own business and work with your hands” (1 Thessalonians 4:11); that is, the heart of a servant that works diligently and seeks to defer praise to God.
Wouldn't the part in bold necessarily exclude any self-professed Christian?
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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#68
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First of all, the legal document asserts that AiG's rights have been compromised, but I don't recall anybody ever having the right to large state funded tax breaks, and none of their actual rights are being infringed in any way.

Secondly, it asserts later on that the technician job they were discriminating over was an AiG position, and this is a lie: the job ad initially clearly said it was for the Ark Encounter. Moreover, hiring through one company to do work for another is exactly the kind of shady skirting of the law that got AiG denied in the first place; admitting to it doesn't make it better, especially in such a context where the shady stuff only started happening to cover for the blatantly illegal stuff that they are now claiming they always thought was totally legal.

Also, what is this constant refrain that their first amendment rights to free speech are being impinged upon? How exactly are they being prevented from speaking by not getting a tax break? Thinking
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#69
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That's what you call a whiny legal maneuver, they clearly know no rights are being limited but they still need attention. It happens all the time
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