Guardian angel saves baby

[Ravenshire]

so the hitlers, jihadis johns, and the C Hebdo murders they all deserve to live in your world?
The people who hate and loathe you and your world, and will expend their lasts breaths to end you and your world, all deserve to live?

Have you heard me call for their deaths you ignorant fuck?!? Again, you have no right to speak for me or tell me what I believe. Sorry drippy, but I'm not pro-death for everyone who doesn't agree with me, as you seem to be implying you are, nor do support the death penalty. Even if I did and even if I thought it applied to the people you mentioned above, it certainly doesn't apply to a 25-year old mother who, as far as we know, has done nothing wrong, except trusting the wrong gawd.

Don't let your douch baggery override your common sense.

You, who found humor in the death of a 25-year old mother and the near death of a little girl, have the audacity to call another a d-bag? Fuck you.

Because in their world infedels like you all die a terrible death, and if you let these people live in your world unchecked you and you d-bag buddies will die a infedels death.

What happened to your "love thy neighbor as yourself" bullshit drippy, if I can set a better example. Even though they might want me dead, I still believe they have as much right to life as anyone else.

It's a shame you can't seem to say the same.

So death to you is a bad thing?

Do you fear death? Do you feel cheated if someone does not live the perfect life span?

Again what makes you think we are all entitled to old age? In your perfect little world do parents of small children somehow get a automatic pass to old age?

What the fuck are you even talking about?!? Death itself is neither good nor bad. It's the natural end to our lives. I was talking about the child who was deprived of her mother. The one who will have to grow up knowing only what other tell her about her mother. Or, did that point sail so far over your head that you couldn't see it with a telescope?

What makes you think I have not given anyone this news before? Or for that matter helped anyone through a suddend death? Or even murder?

Only those who fear death feel cheated by it.

You certainly didn't do it with the callousness you've shown in this thread, considering you haven't been beaten to death for your troubles.

No drippy, I don't fear the time to come after my life is over. I suspect it will be much like all the time before it started and none of that troubled me in the least.

You go ahead and take comfort from your lies. The truth is better, no matter how harsh.

In reality death is our birth into our eternal state. Some move on to glory while other do not. It is those who do not who generally see death only as a negative.

You have no more clue than the next guy what will happen after you die.

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Remember, this is the asshole who says that slavery is good.

This is the asshole who says that cancer is a gift from the god he worships.

This is why Christianity is positively immoral, and this is why Drich is an evil person. He doesn't mind suffering, so long as it isn't him who is suffering, and so long as he can spin it into a "my god exists" story.

This is exactly how "religion poisons everything", to quote Hitch.

Oh, believe me, I haven't forgotten. I'm probably pounding his martyr button though.

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You can laugh at any part of this?!?

Sick! Fuck!

So rather than explain you move to ad hoc attacks?

What part of you laughing at death do you expect me to explain to you?

You really are a sick fuck!

[Thumpalumpacus]

I am guessing there was no voice and the guy made it up for the sensationalism of news story.

Since we're going with ridiculous theories, I've got my own:



Shitty gig, though ... out in the middle of nowhere, and only a few cops and firefighters showed up.

[Esquilax]

That's why I take pleasure in pointing to the story and three on scene witnesses (4 if you count the nbc story and the fisherman) who herd a woman's voice comming from the car. I know what you said and I know what you meant, but like it or not lax, your version does not fit the FACTS reported in the story.

The FACTS of the case is that some people reported hearing a voice at a chaotic, stressful rescue scene. That's not what's under contention, and it's also not something I've taken issue with here. Your completely unjustified assertion that the voice belonged to a guardian angel is what's problematic with this story, and that's truly something that doesn't fit with the FACTS of reality. You can grandstand all you like, but in truth you're just doing what you always do, and are arguing from ignorance: pointing at a mystery- more likely either someone else at the scene asking for help in an unrelated task or an auditory hallucination, which is the kind of thing that happens every day- and assuming that it's what you want it to be, because you said so, isn't much of a position.

But hey, you go back to being a complete slimeball, as I've seen from reading the rest of the thread. That's more your speed than producing accurate observations about reality.

[robvalue]

Stop press:

"Supernatural intervention arbitrarily assigned to event!"

[abaris]

Ah, yes. The Guardian angle stories.

I guess, Guardian angels are otherwise engaged when starving children around the world call for help. They're busy saving one precious first world baby.

[coldwx]

I find it perplexing that in situations like this there is the automatic leap to the supernatural. In most other instances (aliens, bigfoot), people go through a progression of natural explanations first and discount the far-fetched claim. However, when one makes a claim that a god or angel is "watching over" a person or that they heard an angel talk to them, everyone nods in agreement. Never mind the fact that in this case, the voice could have been a last gasp from the dying mother, or another person in the rescue effort, or an on looker, or etc. etc. etc. To me it speaks to a sort of desperation to find anything at all to justify a belief. Why can't individuals just be happy the child is alive and sad that the mother died instead of always trying to link some fanciful claim to whatever god they happen to believe.

[robvalue]

Big old pile of rotten monkey wank is what it is.

If you're going to just randomly assert supernatural explanations, then any other explanation is equally as valid.

If was a magic mermaid voice. It was the God of Apple's intervention. I did it with my magic eyebrows.

None of them can be proved, disproved or even evaluated in any way at all. That's why such "explanations" are utterly worthless and are just representations of the mythology floating around the people's brains.

[Cato]

So, are you stupid enough to not immediately understand that I was proposing an actual human being saying something, and not a magic voice? Or are you just being a deliberately obtuse sod in order to strawman me?

Idiot, or asshole, Drich? Which way you wanna go with this?

Hey Drich, this all sounds strangely familiar. I had a hunch that your feedback thread was bullshit.

[h4ym4n]

Two thoughts: first, humans also have voices with which to call for help. You have no justification at all for saying guardian angel.

Secondly, based on your logic, your thread title could equally fairly be written "guardian angel sits and watches woman die, ensuring her baby grows up without a parent, and then continues to watch that baby suffer for more than half a day before human beings, evidently more moral than angels, came to her rescue."

[Aoi Magi]

Not to sound too insensitive, but here are two more supernatural theories for you Drich :
1) The mom had slowly frozen to death but she still couldn't leave her baby. So when finally people came close her spirit called out to them as desperately as she might have wanted to while she was still alive. That was the final cry of a loving mother.

2) The woman knew what she had with her was not something that belonged to this earth, but was more sinister. She plunged the car in the water as the final attempt to escape the devil's spawn, but she failed. The demon was finally free, it called out to the nearby humans for now it was time to venture outside...

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Besides, what's the point in shouting for help when people are already trying to save her?