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RE: General argument for Islam.
March 27, 2015 at 11:44 pm
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(March 27, 2015 at 9:01 pm)JuliaL Wrote: (March 27, 2015 at 7:31 pm)Judi Lynn Wrote: I'm not convinced. Until the mysterious maker in the sky comes down to me, stands before me and speaks directly to me, my views will remain unchanged. I simply cannot subscribe to any religious book that was not written by any god, but written by man and directs people to accept that it is what it is and that's it. That kind of thinking is just dangerous. I know that the revelatory episode you describe is far and away more convincing than any 1400 year old dictation. But why would you accept that evidence? I'm not a valid judge of what constitutes a true theophany and not some bad snails I had for dinner the previous evening.
Let's not even get started on you being scammed by a demon.
I'd say that seeing God on a golden chariot emerging from a cloudless sky is best explained (in order of descending likelihood) as:
1) delusion
2) illusion
3) Alex K trying out some of his more convincing physics tricks that we don't know about.
Until God gives me equal powers so that I can see He's not pulling yet another confidence trick, I'm not buying.
Though to be honest, you did say you'd be 'changing your view' and not swallowing hook, line and sinker. I'm not expecting a golden chariot. Heck, he could show up as a regular guy and ring my doorbell and sit down and have a chat. But it would take more than that to convince me because people have knocked on my door before to "tell me how JC has changed their lives" and I'm still not interested.
God should eradicate disease and yes, there's that whole regrowing of the limbs thing...
He hasn't supposedly spoken to "his people" for over 2000 years. He shouldn't keep them waiting. And since he hasn't shown himself to his people, I'm honestly not sure how I would react if I stood face to face with him.
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RE: General argument for Islam.
March 27, 2015 at 11:48 pm
Alex is physics magician!?
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RE: General argument for Islam.
March 28, 2015 at 1:22 am
Only when he is wearing the magic codpiece.
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RE: General argument for Islam.
March 28, 2015 at 3:07 am
(March 26, 2015 at 9:03 pm)professor Wrote: I understand your concepts.
Why is the Koran totally different than the Bible which preceded it by up to thousands of years?
Actually the Bible and the Koran were written about the same time. The books of the Bible might have been written much earlier but they were not compiled into a single book until the English did it as a gift to the Pope. Some say that Jerome did it much earlier but that's just to make the myth more believable.
Uthman got a committee to write the Koran. The hadiths were written decades and centuries after Mohammed supposedly bit the dust.
The basic doctrine of the Koran is based upon the Ten Commandments found in Exodus chapter 34. Whereas the Bible is racist to the core the Koran skips the racism and just sticks to being a general pain in the ass to all non-believers.
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March 28, 2015 at 3:14 am
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RE: General argument for Islam.
March 28, 2015 at 3:19 am
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RE: General argument for Islam.
March 28, 2015 at 8:15 am
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RE: General argument for Islam.
March 28, 2015 at 8:22 am
Nothing personal Atlas, but wouldn't it be better to spoiler those quotes, because they do take up a great deal of space and it doesn't make it easier for the reader. Or perhaps, why not just offer a summary of what the quote is trying to tell us. Many thanks chap.
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RE: General argument for Islam.
March 28, 2015 at 8:27 am
(March 28, 2015 at 8:22 am)RobertE Wrote: Nothing personal Atlas, but wouldn't it be better to spoiler those quotes, because they do take up a great deal of space and it doesn't make it easier for the reader. Or perhaps, why not just offer a summary of what the quote is trying to tell us. Many thanks chap.
I appreciate your advice, but which quotes do you mean the Quranic or the writer's ?
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RE: General argument for Islam.
March 28, 2015 at 9:05 am
(March 28, 2015 at 8:27 am)AtlasS2 Wrote: (March 28, 2015 at 8:22 am)RobertE Wrote: Nothing personal Atlas, but wouldn't it be better to spoiler those quotes, because they do take up a great deal of space and it doesn't make it easier for the reader. Or perhaps, why not just offer a summary of what the quote is trying to tell us. Many thanks chap.
I appreciate your advice, but which quotes do you mean the Quranic or the writer's ?
The Quranic quotes. This is just not directed at Islam, but also biblical quotes too. It just makes it easier on the eyes.
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