Gun Control

[Minimalist]

Actually, that is incorrect.  Gun violence is surpassing auto accidents this year.

[Pyrrho]

Is "fragmented" a polite way of saying "fucked up?"
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Yes.

[Pyrrho]

Just for the purpose of this thread, this video popped up, today:

OOh, I want one!  I want a gun that I KNOW will get the job done!

[Whateverist]

So... what are you proposing, that guns become more regulated so that maniacs have less access to them? That's not really that controversial, is it?

If only that were true.

[Cinjin]

ah yes - the good 'ol gun debate.
Pandora and her box of guns.


The human race is shitty and I for one am not going to sit around unarmed while the rest of this country is chocked full of gun nuts and angry preppers.
The people who made that video are selling just as much fear to push their agenda as the NRA uses to push theirs.  Both are detestable - as are the people who can't shoulder the responsibility to lock up their god damn firearms.

[Minimalist]

The problem with locked up guns is that they are of no use in an emergency.  Gun nuts just KNOW that there is someone right around the corner who is getting ready to attack them.

That's the problem with gun nuts.

[downbeatplumb]

People should at least have to have training in their safety before they can buy one.

Do they not?

[Heywood]

Right Cato, and no one needs big clips or military style riffles anymore than they need grenade launchers or armed jets.

They are 3D printing the lower receivers of assault rifles with increasing success.  It would be trivially easy to 3D print big clips.  It is also possible now to make your own crude cruise missile.

Whether or not people need them is a fine question to debate. Just remember people will have relatively easy access to them for the foreseeable future even if you do ban them.

[mralstoner]

4. Gun control worked in Australia. In the 10 years before they banned the guns, there were 16 massacres. Since then (1996) there hasn't been a single massacre.

Gun control has worked in the general Australian population, but not in our Middle-Eastern population, or bikie gangs. Shootings are a common occurrence in Sydney, especially in the Arab neighbourhoods (that's why we have a Middle-Eastern Crime Squad). We don't "flip the bird" to Arabs anymore, if we get cut off in traffic, because they might be packing. Here's a recent shooting:

So why do these people decide to stay indoctrinated? The NRA is one of the scariest lobbyists out there. The NRA not only has donations from crazy paranoid conservative nuts, they also get money from firearms corporations.

Ferguson showed how easily law-and-order can COMPLETELY break down, and it's understandable why so many cling to their guns. If I was an American I'd probably support gun ownership.

[robvalue]

It's weird, I just happened to watch a video all about what this crazy guy thinks about guns. Even by the end, it's not too clear what he thinks.

http://youtu.be/rCn4Wbx-XRU