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Wake up jesus didn't die for your sins
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 Quote:the authentic ones of which are near universally dated to the 50s by scholars (i.e. a couple of decades after Jesus death). Not sure where the 1600 comes from. Again, the inflating of pious blather into "evidence." Where is the "evidence" for this claim? The paul-shit seems to appear in the record in the wake of Marcion's (c 140 CE) "heresy." Before that, no one ever heard of him....in spite of a few attempts to write him in to later forgeries.  RE: Wake up jesus didn't die for your sins
April 12, 2015 at 12:10 pm
(This post was last modified: April 12, 2015 at 12:20 pm by dyresand.)
(April 12, 2015 at 11:37 am)Polaris Wrote:(April 10, 2015 at 3:23 pm)dyresand Wrote: The whole dying for your sins things was added to the bible 16,000 years after jesus supposedly died. Everything about jesus and his sacrafice is hersay. He was just some ordinary dude who died challenging the Roman authority at the time and the Jews at the time. All he did as piss off people and he gotten killed for it or not because well. Because well... you could survive Roman crucifixion and more than likely he probably did and after that he was like these people i'm gone.
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Is it a coincidence that heresy sounds very similar to hearsay?
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Ah I wasn't criticizing, I just thought it was funny. If people don't believe hearsay, it's heresy. If they start their own new hearsay, it's heresy.
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Please visit my website here! It's got lots of information about atheism/theism and support for new atheists. Index of useful threads and discussions Index of my best videos Quickstart guide to the forum  (April 12, 2015 at 11:33 am)Vicki Q Wrote: Paul discusses at length the role of Jesus' crucifixion in dealing with the sin problem in his letters, the authentic ones of which are near universally dated to the 50s by scholars (i.e. a couple of decades after Jesus death). Not sure where the 1600 comes from. If the story about disrupting the money changing in the temple is true, then that would have probably been sufficient justification. I believe the Romans were taking money from the Temple to build an aqueduct at some point (I can't remember if this was around 30 AD). Maybe Jesus' criticism of the temple money changers was also a criticism of Temple money going to the Romans. There is probably more to the story than we see in the gospels IMO.
Probably stuff they took out about naughty things Jesus did. Actually, I'm pretty sure they did. I remember someone posting something about a non-canon book where Jesus killed someone as a kid.
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Someone wake me up when any of this can be relevant to the idea that Mr. Christ is/was god.
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 (April 12, 2015 at 12:47 pm)robvalue Wrote: Probably stuff they took out about naughty things Jesus did. Actually, I'm pretty sure they did. I remember someone posting something about a non-canon book where Jesus killed someone as a kid. There is a Gospel of Thomas, which has it that jesus was never human and had been doing goddy things all his life. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infancy_Gospel_of_Thomas You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid. Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis. (April 12, 2015 at 12:47 pm)robvalue Wrote: Probably stuff they took out about naughty things Jesus did. Actually, I'm pretty sure they did. I remember someone posting something about a non-canon book where Jesus killed someone as a kid. Here is something somewhat similar from the Infancy Gospel of Thomas: Quote: 3 1 While he was going from there with his father Joseph, a child running tore into his shoulder. And Jesus said to him, “You shall no longer go our way.” And instantly he died. At once the people, seeing that he was dead, cried out and said, “Where was this boy born that his word becomes a deed?”http://www.tonyburke.ca/infancy-gospel-o...anslation/ |
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