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Religion is a Delusion/Mental Illness
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Even if there was a god, same shit, my actions are a result of god having created me.
Either way, I'm not responsible for my silly posts.
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.  (May 12, 2015 at 8:48 pm)ignoramus Wrote: Even if there was a god, same shit, my actions are a result of god having created me. well, just as a technical point, I think some theists would argue that there could be a god that has free will (not being subject to physics), and could impart that to creations... RE: Religion is a Delusion/Mental Illness
May 13, 2015 at 8:04 pm
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(May 13, 2015 at 10:11 am)snookerman Wrote:(May 12, 2015 at 8:48 pm)ignoramus Wrote: Even if there was a god, same shit, my actions are a result of god having created me. That's cool! I wouldn't mind joining that religion. That way, when I tell them their god's a cunt, they have to respect that "their" god gave me the free will to express my thoughts publicly... Hehe
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear. (May 13, 2015 at 8:04 pm)ignoramus Wrote:(May 13, 2015 at 10:11 am)snookerman Wrote: well, just as a technical point, I think some theists would argue that there could be a god that has free will (not being subject to physics), and could impart that to creations... yep, that's how it would work. 
If god wanted me to have free will to choose to worship him or not, why does he send people to my door to try and interfere with my decision?
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Please visit my website here! It's got lots of information about atheism/theism and support for new atheists. Index of useful threads and discussions Index of my best videos Quickstart guide to the forum (May 14, 2015 at 1:56 pm)robvalue Wrote: If god wanted me to have free will to choose to worship him or not, why does he send people to my door to try and interfere with my decision? with a purely physical universe, the people coming to your door are a product of deterministic processes (or the random motion of particles)... as is your decision!  (May 16, 2015 at 5:09 pm)snookerman Wrote:(May 14, 2015 at 1:56 pm)robvalue Wrote: If god wanted me to have free will to choose to worship him or not, why does he send people to my door to try and interfere with my decision? The answer is to open your door naked and flaunt how beautiful you are guaranteed to work. Except...for that awkward time.. i got some looks back and a wink and my door slammed in their faces.
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May 17, 2015 at 3:45 am
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Some JWs made me sad several years ago. They were trying to tell me about how God made the birds. I'm so emotional when it comes to animals, I felt like they were belittling my feathered friends, reducing them to god's playthings. I suppose you could say I found it offensive. I know this wasn't their intention, and my reaction wasn't rational. I didn't say any of this to them.
I just said no thanks and closed the door. Feel free to send me a private message.
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Agreed! Though I do see many religious people live there lives in some area's as fine. But, What I hate is how SOME therapists want them to pursue religion... I have seen it many times... used as a "coping skill". Not all therapists do it though. It sickens me.
RE: Religion is a Delusion/Mental Illness
May 18, 2015 at 11:01 am
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(May 16, 2015 at 5:09 pm)snookerman Wrote:(May 14, 2015 at 1:56 pm)robvalue Wrote: If god wanted me to have free will to choose to worship him or not, why does he send people to my door to try and interfere with my decision? Minor corrections, in a purely deterministic universe......."this that and the other"(TTO™) are the product of deterministic processes. The universe being purely physical is not a statement that guarantees this (nor "random" TTO)...and, ironically, in a "not purely physical" universe......... TTO could just as easily be deterministic or random. There's really no sensible distinction between a physical and a physical+ universe, with regards to deterministic or random TTO. So...no, the universe being purely physical does not lead to those people or your decisions being the result of deterministic processes. To make that claim...you'll need a great deal more than just a physical universe.
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