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Perfect, Best of Possible, or Better than Nothing: Which criterion?

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Perfect, Best of Possible, or Better than Nothing: Which criterion?
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RE: Perfect, Best of Possible, or Better than Nothing: Which criterion?
May 17, 2015 at 4:40 pm
(May 17, 2015 at 3:37 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: I think you misunderstood.
Gilgamesh - describes same event from a different perspective.
Egyptian Book of the Dead - Refers to the same place.
Jesus was foreshadowed in the mythology of the pagans.
Creation myths - the Greeks version isn't even close.
Brahma versus YHVH - that's plausible but its a real stretch.

Oh right i had to re read over it a second time. 
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RE: Perfect, Best of Possible, or Better than Nothing: Which criterion?
May 17, 2015 at 6:42 pm (This post was last modified: May 17, 2015 at 6:46 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Good god.....did you just out yourself as a flood believer Chad?  In public.... What "event" is -either- narrative referring to....precisely?
(the rest of those comments are pretty off the wall as well - but so are some of the attributions.....meh)
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RE: Perfect, Best of Possible, or Better than Nothing: Which criterion?
May 17, 2015 at 6:50 pm
If there heaven is perfect but angels, who live in god's presence, were able to rebel and that rebellion is wrong, then heaven is not perfect. The heaven even describes Satan talking to god about Job but if Satan is evil that means that god allows evil into heaven. If evil is allowed into heaven than, again, how is heaven perfect?

Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them. 7The LORD said to Satan, "From where do you come?" Then Satan answered the LORD and said, "From roaming about on the earth and walking around on it
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RE: Perfect, Best of Possible, or Better than Nothing: Which criterion?
May 18, 2015 at 1:13 am (This post was last modified: May 18, 2015 at 1:14 am by robvalue.)
Which is more likely?

1- There was this cool idea for a flood story. Maybe it even started out being about a minor flood that actually happened. Word got around about it over time, and it got distorted into lots of different stories in lots of different religions.

2- There was a massive flood, generated by a deity, for which no evidence can be found.
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RE: Perfect, Best of Possible, or Better than Nothing: Which criterion?
May 18, 2015 at 8:27 am
(May 18, 2015 at 1:13 am)robvalue Wrote: Which is more likely?

1- There was this cool idea for a flood story. Maybe it even started out being about a minor flood that actually happened. Word got around about it over time, and it got distorted into lots of different stories in lots of different religions.

2- There was a massive flood, generated by a deity, for which no evidence can be found.

3 - There have been many actual floods in many actual places.  So stories of floods occur in a variety of places, some of which get exaggerated.

"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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RE: Perfect, Best of Possible, or Better than Nothing: Which criterion?
May 19, 2015 at 6:12 am
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