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What's worst: god, horoscope or homeopathy?
#11
RE: What's worst: god, horoscope or homeopathy?
This is like asking if I would prefer eating dog shit, cow shit, or horse shit.

The fundamental flaw is the same; namely, accepting unsubstantiated claims as fact. Ranking them on some subjective absurdity scale would require an evaluation that one is more plausible than the others, which I cannot do making them equally difficult to understand.

Now, if we were to consider the consequences of belief and rank them starting with the most hideous I would submit the following:

God - If this takes the meaning of a purely deist position I would immediately rank this the least offensive. Assuming that it means Abraham's God generates a lengthy list of bad outcomes that merit first prize.

Homeopathy - There is nothing dangerous about drinking water; however, if this is done in lieu of seeking proper medical treatment for an ailment the results could be dangerous.

Astrology - There's a potential for draining resources here, but I would make this analogous to someone that follows professional wrestling because he/she thinks its an actual competitive combat sport. I suppose a case could be made that some take astrological advice seriously resulting in poor life decisions, but I don't see evidence that this is pervasive to any extent.
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#12
RE: What's worst: god, horoscope or homeopathy?
In terms of nuttiness:

1. Horoscope
2. Homeopathy
3. God

In terms of the harm they cause:

1. God






1000. Homeopathy
1001. Horoscope
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.

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#13
RE: What's worst: god, horoscope or homeopathy?
They need to write the same message on homeopathy bottles and God as they do on horoscopes.

"For entertainment purposes only."
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#14
RE: What's worst: god, horoscope or homeopathy?
(June 4, 2015 at 9:57 am)Cato Wrote: This is like asking if I would prefer eating dog shit, cow shit, or horse shit.

You the man.

(June 4, 2015 at 9:57 am)Cato Wrote: Astrology - There's a potential for draining resources here, but I would make this analogous to someone that follows professional wrestling because he/she thinks its an actual competitive combat sport. I suppose a case could be made that some take astrological advice seriously resulting in poor life decisions, but I don't see evidence that this is pervasive to any extent.

In yet one more quirk that makes the USA so exceptional, I will remind you that Nancy Reagan kept an official astrological advisor on speed dial and her genial husband was probably happy to hear her out.
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#15
RE: What's worst: god, horoscope or homeopathy?
(June 4, 2015 at 10:17 am)AFTT47 Wrote: In terms of nuttiness:

1. Horoscope
2. Homeopathy
3. God

In terms of the harm they cause:

1. God






1000. Homeopathy
1001. Horoscope

That's an important point.

In terms of nuttiness, i'd say
1 horoscope
2 God
3 homeopathy

But in terms of danger to human lives, i'd consider
1 God and homeopathy
...
1000 horoscope
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#16
RE: What's worst: god, horoscope or homeopathy?
Let's combine them all and make horotheopathy. Much more sensible.

I find it quite awkward when people start talking to me about any sort of "woo" in real life. They have the expectation I'm going to totally get what they're saying when in fact I have absolutely no clue as to why they would think these things. I try my best to politely get out of this. "It's not my sort of thing" is about the best I can do. Probably better than "Don't ever talk to me again" or "I'm calling a responsible scientist!"

Some people do know how I feel, and say, "I know you don't believe in ghosts, but this house really is haunted." Uhuh. Well, that's enough evidence for me.
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#17
RE: What's worst: god, horoscope or homeopathy?
I choose homeopathy because it seems far more dangerous than horoscopes

(June 4, 2015 at 5:28 pm)robvalue Wrote: Let's combine them all and make horotheopathy. Much more sensible.

If you call it whoretheopathy, I'm in Big Grin
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#18
RE: What's worst: god, horoscope or homeopathy?
Ooohhh! That's sounds irresitable!
I'm in!

Could we not spend too much energy on the horoscope stuff though?
And I'm not all that keen on the homeopathy shit either!
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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#19
RE: What's worst: god, horoscope or homeopathy?
It's all about the hookers and blo now, bae
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RE: What's worst: god, horoscope or homeopathy?
(June 4, 2015 at 12:02 pm)whateverist Wrote:
(June 4, 2015 at 9:57 am)Cato Wrote: This is like asking if I would prefer eating dog shit, cow shit, or horse shit.

You the man.


(June 4, 2015 at 9:57 am)Cato Wrote: Astrology - There's a potential for draining resources here, but I would make this analogous to someone that follows professional wrestling because he/she thinks its an actual competitive combat sport. I suppose a case could be made that some take astrological advice seriously resulting in poor life decisions, but I don't see evidence that this is pervasive to any extent.

In yet one more quirk that makes the USA so exceptional, I will remind you that Nancy Reagan kept an official astrological advisor on speed dial and her genial husband was probably happy to hear her out.

Ronald Reagan learned early on in his second marriage to Nancy (Jane Wyman was #1) that his life would be shit unless he let Nancy do whatever she wanted.

The astrology crap was revealed by Don Regan, chief of staff and Larry Speakes weighed in on the topic too.  Kitty Kelley had some more details, Nancy even  confirmed quite a bit herself, and the court astrologer, Joan Quigley, fessed up in her own book too.

What I found particularly odious, Nancy claimed the astrology was a comfort to her after the Hinckley assassination attempt, and that was her motivation for seeking out Quigley.  Realize, of course, the salient feature of the Reagan administration was brazen pandering to the religious right, and any number of them could have been called in to 'help' Nancy through her anxiety.  That wasn't done however, instead, at the behest of some friends, Nancy sought out Quigley, a woman the christer folks of that era would recognize as a witch, freely claiming association with a familiar spirit.  And of course, these very same Christers Ronald was pandering too, were VERY aware familliar spirits, sorcery, witchcraft, are all FORBIDDEN in Holy Scripture.

Just more selective Bible enforcement from the Christian camp, more galling than usual, they could have been called upon to help one they perceived as being part of their tribe, but it never occurred to anyone to try.
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