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I don't care about bible contradictions.
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RE: I don't care about bible contradictions.
(June 14, 2015 at 1:53 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: I like to capitalize Atheist and not capitalize god.

I don't capitalize god either, but atheist is not a proper noun ._.
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Jesus asking questions of the folks at the temple could be an odd thing too. They won't be able to tell him anything he doesn't already know, and as we've seen repeatedly, if child Jesus starts pointing out boo-boos in the writings (something that isn't very hard to do at all), the folks at the temple are going to wash his mouth out with naphtha.

Asking questions to see what they know can get ugly too, I got in trouble in high school for trying (and succeeding) to show up the American Government instructor. I can't imagine the temple staff would like to be quizzed.
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#13
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Also regarding contradictions, if you knowingly use one on a christer, and they counter with the conflicting verse, you get to ask them how bringing up bible contradictions helps advance their cause.

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#14
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Basically as far as I'm concerned, Bible contradictions have served their purpose for me in helping me to stop believing, but once you've seen one you've seen 'em all. So in other words it's just a fact to me that the bible is contradictory and therefore not the perfect word of god; rather the word of man. Nothing could change that belief for me now - that the Bible cannot be taken literally - so that's why I'm not particularly interested in discussions about Bible contradictions though occasionally they're interesting.
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Clearly Christians don't care about them either Tongue

2/10 God, good first attempt, needs a lot of work
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(June 14, 2015 at 3:07 pm)robvalue Wrote: Clearly Christians don't care about them either Tongue

2/10 God, good first attempt, needs a lot of work

Many Christians are unaware of the contradictions in the Bible.  If they were aware of the contradictions, many Christians who presently "don't care" about them would care.  Of course, some people are crazy and have no problems believing contradictory things, and those people are likely unreachable.

"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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(June 14, 2015 at 1:21 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: There are a constant series of threads that nitpick various bible quotes where it contradicts with itself in some way or another. Of course this isn't surprising because the bible was written by dozens of people over the course of a millennia+. As an Atheist it comes as no surprise that there are contradictions. There is a far bigger problem with the bible then it contradicting with itself. It contradicts with the fundamental nature of the universe. I think to even point on contradictions with itself is to give the bible too much validity to start with. Both the old testament and new are so full of nonsense and fables that we know are false that it doesn't matter to me what else it says. The constant references to witches, demons, magic, angels, people living to be hundreds of years old, talking animals are enough for me to dismiss it's validity without having to nitpick small passages against each other.

That is the difference between a Christian and an atheist.

You ask a Christian why he believes something and after a few convoluted attempts to explain things, he will finally get down to "Well, I just believe it and I don't care what the evidence says."

Ask an atheist why he believes what he does and he can tell you with concrete, empirical, verifiable evidence. No, the atheist is not obligated to explain himself to anyone, but he is still able to do so when challenged and is never at a loss.

Bible contradictions played a big part in moving me away and keeping me away from Christianity. Yes, the Bible should be Shipped High In Transit. Still Christian evangelist and proselytizers don't sleep or rest, so it's always good to remind ourselves why we left the church. For many people it's not a once and for all decision.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.

I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.

Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire

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I'm with you, Cap. I can't get passed the notion of a magic book to even get into the details. I started a fruitless thread on the topic to nail down a consensus of what the working mechanism is that imbued the bible with magical powers, or how it was "divinely inspired", whatever that means.
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:

"I don't hang around with mostly men because I'm gay. It's because men are better than women. Better trained, better equipped...better. Just better! I'm not gay."

For context, this is the previous verse:

"Hi Jesus" -robvalue
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RE: I don't care about bible contradictions.
(June 14, 2015 at 1:21 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: There are a constant series of threads that nitpick various bible quotes where it contradicts with itself in some way or another. Of course this isn't surprising because the bible was written by dozens of people over the course of a millennia+. As an Atheist it comes as no surprise that there are contradictions. There is a far bigger problem with the bible then it contradicting with itself. It contradicts with the fundamental nature of the universe. I think to even point on contradictions with itself is to give the bible too much validity to start with. Both the old testament and new are so full of nonsense and fables that we know are false that it doesn't matter to me what else it says. The constant references to witches, demons, magic, angels, people living to be hundreds of years old, talking animals are enough for me to dismiss it's validity without having to nitpick small passages against each other.

Internal contradictions remove the argument from metaphor.

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