(July 11, 2015 at 10:10 pm)ignoramus Wrote: Before the OP can go any further, he needs to prove that he is not a spambot.They are the same. They both have truth. They have both been manipulated by man.
Please answer correctly:
A: ALL ON THEM
B: NONE OF THEM
C: DEPENDS WHICH COUNTRY YOU WERE BORN IN
D: BERRY WAFFLES
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Islam is the real deal
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But...but...allah talked to mo in the cave... when he wasn't busy fucking 9 year olds. How can you doubt?
RE: Islam is the real deal
July 12, 2015 at 11:28 am
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(July 12, 2015 at 5:03 am)robvalue Wrote: You are saying either these guys found the knowledge themselves, or else it was God. That is not justified. There could be an infinite number of other ways they got the knowledge. Maybe it was a magic speaking toad! Maybe it was aliens! Maybe it was sheer luck! Maybe some weird chemicals in the air gave them temporary amazing knowledge! How did you rule them all out? This amounts to an argument from incredulity, "I can't think of any other way that they got the information." Truth doesn't depend on your ability to imagine it. I don't need to actually know how they got the information to point out the problems in your reasoning. The best answer is, "I don't know how they got it." For more about this see, below:Wow. You are way off. Worship of God is to keep you clear minded and on the right path. That's all. (July 12, 2015 at 5:50 am)ignoramus Wrote: You know, even cool dudes like "Prince" (the one who thought he was visited by an angel), couldn't get through to people like this and they are both born Islamic.Islam and Christianity are the same. They both refer to the one God. Christians get it twisted by thinking you can only find salvation through Jesus Christians, when in fact Jesus is the same God as well. Islamic believers know There is more than one way to salvation. And they know you must be more good than bad for salvation. Many Christians think you can do whatever you want because Jesus already paid for your sins. In reality it was a change from do or die by the direct hand of God, to do right or don't, and you will see for yourself upon death. There is one God. It is all encompassing. Feuding over a name for that God is were people fucked up. RE: Islam is the real deal
July 12, 2015 at 11:45 am
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(July 12, 2015 at 11:44 am)Neimenovic Wrote:The truth is in the lessons they both teach. They do not contradict one another. Only man's interpretation makes it seem like they do. Really.(July 12, 2015 at 11:20 am)popsthebuilder Wrote: They are the same. They both have truth. They have both been manipulated by man. An attempt at literal understanding is counterproductive. Most teachings are metaphorical. It even says that. (July 12, 2015 at 11:45 am)popsthebuilder Wrote:(July 12, 2015 at 11:44 am)Neimenovic Wrote: What truth is that? How can they be the same and both true if they contradict each other?The truth is in the lessons they both teach. They do not contradict one another. Only man's interpretation makes it seem like they do. Really. Not true. Take Quran 4:157 for example: http://www.quranx.com/4.157 Quran 4:157 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:- The Bible contradicts that, obbviously. The Quran is a book that was created to negate the Bible. Muhammad created a religion which specifically denies the claims of another religion - Christianity. Seriously, go read the Quran. (July 12, 2015 at 11:45 am)popsthebuilder Wrote:(July 12, 2015 at 11:44 am)Neimenovic Wrote: What truth is that? How can they be the same and both true if they contradict each other?The truth is in the lessons they both teach. They do not contradict one another. Only man's interpretation makes it seem like they do. Really. What are those lessons, specifically? Just give me an example or two. How can 'Jesus is the son of god' and 'there is no son of god, he is only a messenger' not contradict each other? It isn't a matter of interpretation, that's what it fucking says. What is the metaphorical meaning of the bible and the quran? RE: Islam is the real deal
July 12, 2015 at 12:15 pm
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(July 12, 2015 at 5:03 am)robvalue Wrote: You are saying either these guys found the knowledge themselves, or else it was God. That is not justified. There could be an infinite number of other ways they got the knowledge. Maybe it was a magic speaking toad! Maybe it was aliens! Maybe it was sheer luck! Maybe some weird chemicals in the air gave them temporary amazing knowledge! How did you rule them all out? This amounts to an argument from incredulity, "I can't think of any other way that they got the information." Truth doesn't depend on your ability to imagine it. I don't need to actually know how they got the information to point out the problems in your reasoning. The best answer is, "I don't know how they got it." For more about this see, below:Ok thats a nice way to put things and it is very solid but it is not scientific it is more like philosophy nevertheless it is well established I must say so it miggt be if we forget that quran has mentioned Manny ethics and human behavior that any toad or dragon would never know about humans . And when mohammad talked to his people they refused to believe so it is not smarting gaz and we can go on and on . I know that you will say that is not the thing but the idea is why it is allah in particular I why not anything else that we can not imagine I will tell then that is allah . He has no image no one can imagine how he looks and I dont care if you call him allah or anything els the essential thing is you conclude his existence. (July 12, 2015 at 7:19 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:Well that is a weird way to approach things you measure the right and wrong in scriptures not people be logical in your approach many scientists were muslims and many were christians and many were atheists it doesn't have anything to do with religion(July 11, 2015 at 7:43 pm)huss88ein Wrote: There are many scintific facts in quran that would proof to any one that quran is the word of god and god exists one .
Dude. Why isn't the germ theory in the quran if it's so scientific? You'd think 7th century muslims could use that.
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