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RE: Islam is the real deal
July 12, 2015 at 12:38 pm
Wikipedia Wrote:Naik has said that the theory of evolution is "only a hypothesis, and an unproven conjecture at best".[46] According to Naik, most scientists "support the theory, because it went against the Bible – not because it was true."
If we can't even get his best awesome 'scientist' past this, then how are we going to even accept other cockamamie 'theories' like germ theory?
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great
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RE: Islam is the real deal
July 12, 2015 at 12:57 pm
It always gets me when they trout out 'evolution is just a theory'. It's hilarious, because creationism is not even a theory. It is, by the very definition, a fucking myth.
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RE: Islam is the real deal
July 12, 2015 at 1:04 pm
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Oh well, I tried. Apparently I'm not scientific enough.
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RE: Islam is the real deal
July 12, 2015 at 2:06 pm
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Neimenovic the Nt may say that Jesus is the son of God. We are all the sons of God. He was a messenger. The New Testament is full of contradictions by man and translation.
Your wickedness will punish you; your backsliding will rebuke you. Consider then and realize how evil and bitter it is for you when you forsake the Lord your God and have no awe for me.
4:36. And worship Allâh and associate naught with Him, and be good to parents and near of kin and orphans and the needy and to the neighbour who is related to you and the neighbour who is an alien and to the companion by (your) side and the wayfarer and those whom your right hands possess. Surely, Allâh does not love those who are arrogant, (and) boastful.
It all is to be taken in a way that you can relate. That is what I mean by metaphorically. Please, this is fun. More examples? Do you want me to look up we're it actually says that true believers that are foreign to you are your brothers?
(July 12, 2015 at 12:57 pm)Neimenovic Wrote: It always gets me when they trout out 'evolution is just a theory'. It's hilarious, because creationism is not even a theory. It is, by the very definition, a fucking myth. I'm sorry. I have been trying to be understanding but Damn man. Evolution is real. Evolution is a product of the Universe. The Universe us a product of God. Even if it is all just coincidence it still start d from something. Even if it all started from particles of dust or a big bang, all that came from something. That something is God.
(July 12, 2015 at 12:10 pm)Neimenovic Wrote: (July 12, 2015 at 11:45 am)popsthebuilder Wrote: The truth is in the lessons they both teach. They do not contradict one another. Only man's interpretation makes it seem like they do. Really.
An attempt at literal understanding is counterproductive. Most teachings are metaphorical. It even says that.
What are those lessons, specifically? Just give me an example or two.
How can 'Jesus is the son of god' and 'there is no son of god, he is only a messenger' not contradict each other? It isn't a matter of interpretation, that's what it fucking says.
What is the metaphorical meaning of the bible and the quran?
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RE: Islam is the real deal
July 12, 2015 at 2:15 pm
(July 12, 2015 at 2:06 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: The Universe us a product of God. Even if it is all just coincidence it still start d from something. Even if it all started from particles of dust or a big bang, all that came from something. That something is God.
Your God hypothesis is a baseless assertion.
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RE: Islam is the real deal
July 12, 2015 at 2:17 pm
Ok...so you're saying, more or less, that the thing bible and quran have in common that you think is true, is god. Well.....thanks, captain obvious. -_-
I don't get what you're trying to say about evolution. My post wasn't directed at you.
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RE: Islam is the real deal
July 12, 2015 at 2:18 pm
(July 12, 2015 at 2:15 pm)Cato Wrote: (July 12, 2015 at 2:06 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: The Universe us a product of God. Even if it is all just coincidence it still start d from something. Even if it all started from particles of dust or a big bang, all that came from something. That something is God.
Your God hypothesis is a baseless assertion.
And an unnecessary one at that. Sire, I have no need for that idea.
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RE: Islam is the real deal
July 12, 2015 at 2:19 pm
Ok yard. Where did the big bang or dust come from. Can you hypothesize that everything came from something or is that too big a pill for you to swallow as well?
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RE: Islam is the real deal
July 12, 2015 at 2:22 pm
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(July 12, 2015 at 2:19 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: Ok yard. Where did the big bang or dust come from. Can you hypothesize that everything came from something or is that too big a pill for you to swallow as well?
The only honest answer to that question is 'we don't know'. Anything and everything beyond that, including your god hypothesis, is guessing. I don't know, neither do you. The difference is, I admit to that, but you just keep making shit up.
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RE: Islam is the real deal
July 12, 2015 at 2:27 pm
(July 12, 2015 at 2:19 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: Ok yard. Where did the big bang or dust come from. Can you hypothesize that everything came from something or is that too big a pill for you to swallow as well?
What came before the big bang is a subject of debate amongst scientists who are working on various theories.
The fact is we don't have enough facts to go on, but to say some sort of impossible magic man dun it is not helpful.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
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