What's the most face-palm-worthy statement you have ever heard from a priest/preacher

[Randy Carson]

Why?

I provide references in my posts...to the point that people start criticizing me for "quote-mining" and telling me to stop quoting Ehrman and others.

Wouldn't it be reasonable then, for me to ask others to provide some references to back up what they are otherwise merely asserting?

Quote mining is precisely the opposite of providing evidence it's providing misinformation.  Quote mining is misrepresenting the views of others by selectively quoting them.  That is the accusation.  Or is that okay in order to convince others of Christianity too?

If you define the term that way, then you know that I am not guilty of misrepresenting anyone's views because the references and links that I provide allow anyone to fact-check my work for themselves. That is an absurd accusation, and I'm surprised at you.

Can you name another member of this forum whose posts contain anywhere near as many references and links as mine?

Anyone?

I think not.

[Jenny A]

Quote mining is precisely the opposite of providing evidence it's providing misinformation.  Quote mining is misrepresenting the views of others by selectively quoting them.  That is the accusation.  Or is that okay in order to convince others of Christianity too?

If you define the term that way, then you know that I am not guilty of misrepresenting anyone's views. That is an absurd accusation, and I'm surprised at you.

Can you name another member of this forum whose posts contain anywhere near as many references and links as mine?

Anyone?

I think not.

That is the definition of quote mining.  It's using quotes to misrepresent the speaker or author's views.  You have done it to Ehrman.   And you have sited articles that don't say what you cite them for.  Quality of references, not quantity is what counts.  And no reference is needed for arguments, proofs, or opinions (unless they belong to someone else) only for facts.

[Ravenshire]

Jared hawked sandwiches, cathy-lick priests are presented as having the moral high ground. Subway cut ties with Jared, popes have actively protected the rapists.

Yes, Randy. When someone who is presented to the world as a paragon of morality is caught diddling kiddies there's going to be more outcry than when the spokesman for a restaurant get caught with kiddy porn. To bad your defense of rapists will continue regardless.

Please cite the post in which I defended pedophile priests.

Any and every time you start going on about how there really aren't that many compared to other... blah, blah, blah. You rationalize, minimize and marginalize the crime instead of just coming right out and saying "Yes. You're right. Priests that rape kids are sick bastards." If you actually backed up your claims of moral superiority you wouldn't get half the shit tossed your direction that you do.

[Randy Carson]

If you define the term that way, then you know that I am not guilty of misrepresenting anyone's views. That is an absurd accusation, and I'm surprised at you.

Can you name another member of this forum whose posts contain anywhere near as many references and links as mine?

Anyone?

I think not.

That is the definition of quote mining.  It's using quotes to misrepresent the speaker or author's views.  You have done it to Ehrman.  

Prove it.

I've provided the bibliographical information in every post where I've quoted him so you can fact-check me. I own the book from which I'm quoting. The articles are available online.

Show me my misrepresentation.

[Randy Carson]

Please cite the post in which I defended pedophile priests.

Any and every time you start going on about how there really aren't that many compared to other... blah, blah, blah. You rationalize, minimize and marginalize the crime instead of just coming right out and saying "Yes. You're right. Priests that rape kids are sick bastards." If you actually backed up your claims of moral superiority you wouldn't get half the shit tossed your direction that you do.

Roughly three months ago in the Ask A Catholic thread, I wrote that priests who commit crimes like this should be prosecuted and sent to jail. I have repeated this as often as the subject has come up.

So, again, cite the post in which I DEFENDED pedophile priests.

What I'm NOT going to listen to is a bunch of ignorant fools blathering on about the Catholic Church and besmirching the good reputation of the 99% of our priests who have not been involved in these crimes.

Pedophilia is more prevalent in just about every institution - schools, scouting, sports teams, and yes, Protestant churches, etc. - than it is among Catholic priests.

But that's an inconvenient truth for your atheists, isn't it?

[Whateverist]

If you define the term that way, then you know that I am not guilty of misrepresenting anyone's views. That is an absurd accusation, and I'm surprised at you.

Can you name another member of this forum whose posts contain anywhere near as many references and links as mine?

Anyone?

I think not.

That is the definition of quote mining.  It's using quotes to misrepresent the speaker or author's views.  You have done it to Ehrman.   And you have sited articles that don't say what you cite them for.  Quality of references, not quantity is what counts.  And no reference is needed for arguments, proofs, or opinions (unless they belong to someone else) only for facts.

Gosh, Jenny.  Cut the poor guy some slack.  What is a dumb ass with an axe to grind supposed to do?  

After all he is giving up his valuable time to come trick us into saving our souls.  Actually, never mind.  Rip him a new one.

[Lemonvariable72]

Anything by either Hovind - they're interchangeable - Ham, Pendleton etc are low-hanging fruit. Too easy. So for my money I'd probably go with that pastor who got caught bragging about punching a kid in the chest for Jesus.

I saw that one, Stimbo. It was mind-boggling.

Here's another:   A Priest talking about the glories of circumcision:

One was describing how the early church tried to require Gentiles to become circumcised in order to be Xtian. He was talking about what a wonderful practice it is, what a glorious way to remind men that they have a relationship with God. He said "I feel sorry for uncircumsized males. They don't have the joy of being reminded, every few hours, that they are special to god."  

I turned to a friend and said "did he really just say, every time I take a piss . . . " [Friend] "Yep. That's exactly what he said."

Hey, I'm circumsized, does mean that every time I jerk off that I give glory to god?

[Ravenshire]

Any and every time you start going on about how there really aren't that many compared to other... blah, blah, blah. You rationalize, minimize and marginalize the crime instead of just coming right out and saying "Yes. You're right. Priests that rape kids are sick bastards." If you actually backed up your claims of moral superiority you wouldn't get half the shit tossed your direction that you do.

Roughly three months ago in the Ask A Catholic thread, I wrote that priests who commit crimes like this should be prosecuted and sent to jail. I have repeated this as often as the subject has come up.

So, again, cite the post in which I DEFENDED pedophile priests.

See below...

What I'm NOT going to listen to is a bunch of ignorant fools blathering on about the Catholic Church and besmirching the good reputation of the 99% of our priests who have not been involved in these crimes.

Guess you'd better leave now, because on an atheist website the condemning of the rapist priests and the members of your fucking church that protects them will continue despite what you will or will not listen to.

Pedophilia is more prevalent in just about every institution - schools, scouting, sports teams, and yes, Protestant churches, etc. - than it is among Catholic priests.

See guys. It ain't so bad in the cathy-lick church. It's way better than other places...

And the implication of such an argument...

But that's an inconvenient truth for your atheists, isn't it?

Not at all. Many here have told you they abhor child rapists wherever they occur but that what makes it extra specially bad when a priest does it is that he's presented to the world as a paragon of morality and then protected by the same church that projects that moral authority.

Really, what you want is to have it both ways. You condemn them from one side of your mouth while rationalizing from the other. It's honestly surprising you've not gotten whiplash from the mental gymnastics.

[Randy Carson]

Roughly three months ago in the Ask A Catholic thread, I wrote that priests who commit crimes like this should be prosecuted and sent to jail. I have repeated this as often as the subject has come up.

So, again, cite the post in which I DEFENDED pedophile priests.

See below...

What I'm NOT going to listen to is a bunch of ignorant fools blathering on about the Catholic Church and besmirching the good reputation of the 99% of our priests who have not been involved in these crimes.

Guess you'd better leave now, because on an atheist website the condemning of the rapist priests and the members of your fucking church that protects them will continue despite what you will or will not listen to.

Pedophilia is more prevalent in just about every institution - schools, scouting, sports teams, and yes, Protestant churches, etc. - than it is among Catholic priests.

See guys. It ain't so bad in the cathy-lick church. It's way better than other places...

And the implication of such an argument...

But that's an inconvenient truth for your atheists, isn't it?

Not at all. Many here have told you they abhor child rapists wherever they occur but that what makes it extra specially bad when a priest does it is that he's presented to the world as a paragon of morality and then protected by the same church that projects that moral authority.

Really, what you want is to have it both ways. You condemn them from one side of your mouth while rationalizing from the other. It's honestly surprising you've not gotten whiplash from the mental gymnastics.

IOW, you don't actually have a quote from me defending pedophilia.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

Circumcision got started because some guy like giving BJs on baby boys and he needed an excuse.  So he claimed that it was a religious practice and he was able to keep sucking boys' bloody penises throughout time, even to this very minute.

Source, please.

It's in the Bible.  Paul did some but he didn't like the sucking part so that's why Christian males don't have to get circumcised.  Imagine some weird guy sucking on baby Jesus!