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You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.
Matthew 6:1
Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven.
Matthew 7:1-5
Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.
Matthew 6:5 And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward.
Jude 1:16 These are grumblers, malcontents, following their own sinful desires; they are loud-mouthed boasters, showing favoritism to gain advantage.
And so on...
Yes Yes, I know the bible contradicts itself and basically states you should do the opposite of this also. But why not choose the quieter option?
Precisely why my favorite quote is: "Preach the gospel at all times and when necessary use words."
You are definitely a lot less irritating than most Christians who show up here. That is why I am only rude to you occasionally.
My guess is, if we were neighbors, we would get along very well. I do not discuss religion with my neighbors.
"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
(September 20, 2015 at 5:58 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Many of them do... even most of them, I would say. But we have an "observer bias" because we are forced to deal with the loud ones, who disparage us and try to press their theocratic agenda into our lives.
It's not the ones who show up here that are the problem....
(September 20, 2015 at 5:58 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Many of them do... even most of them, I would say. But we have an "observer bias" because we are forced to deal with the loud ones, who disparage us and try to press their theocratic agenda into our lives.
It's not the ones who show up here that are the problem....
It's these fuckheads.
Wait... do you mean the fundie, or the Harry Potter fans surrounding him?
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.
Matthew 6:1
Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven.
Matthew 7:1-5
Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.
Matthew 6:5 And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward.
Jude 1:16 These are grumblers, malcontents, following their own sinful desires; they are loud-mouthed boasters, showing favoritism to gain advantage.
And so on...
Yes Yes, I know the bible contradicts itself and basically states you should do the opposite of this also. But why not choose the quieter option?
Precisely why my favorite quote is: "Preach the gospel at all times and when necessary use words."
YES! Saint Francis of Assisi is my favorite saint. He has all the best quotes, too.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
(September 20, 2015 at 5:58 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Many of them do... even most of them, I would say. But we have an "observer bias" because we are forced to deal with the loud ones, who disparage us and try to press their theocratic agenda into our lives.
Yes, I was about to say the same.
Most Christians don't go around preaching to people. But obviously, you only hear from the ones who do.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.
Matthew 6:1
Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven.
Matthew 7:1-5
Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.
Matthew 6:5 And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward.
Jude 1:16 These are grumblers, malcontents, following their own sinful desires; they are loud-mouthed boasters, showing favoritism to gain advantage.
And so on...
Yes Yes, I know the bible contradicts itself and basically states you should do the opposite of this also. But why not choose the quieter option?
Nothing you posted said anything about Christians witnessing about Christ with words, those verses said to be responsible in our witness.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
(September 21, 2015 at 4:17 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:
(September 21, 2015 at 2:30 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: YES! Saint Francis of Assisi is my favorite saint. He has all the best quotes, too.
Here's a gem from Jesus:
Matthew 10:5 (CEV) = "Jesus sent out the twelve apostles with these instructions:
Stay away from the Gentiles and don’t go to any Samaritan town."
Hey Wyrd, your posts are always really weird lol.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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