"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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 "A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."  (September 21, 2015 at 12:44 pm)Pyrrho Wrote:(September 21, 2015 at 10:56 am)lkingpinl Wrote: Precisely why my favorite quote is: "Preach the gospel at all times and when necessary use words." Bah I don't find you that rude but I'm quite sure we would get along very well IRL. I don't discuss religion with my neighbors either 
We are not made happy by what we acquire but by what we appreciate.
 (September 20, 2015 at 5:58 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Many of them do... even most of them, I would say. But we have an "observer bias" because we are forced to deal with the loud ones, who disparage us and try to press their theocratic agenda into our lives. It's not the ones who show up here that are the problem.... It's these fuckheads. ![[Image: christianity.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=guardianlv.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F08%2Fchristianity.jpg)
 (September 21, 2015 at 1:17 pm)Minimalist Wrote:(September 20, 2015 at 5:58 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Many of them do... even most of them, I would say. But we have an "observer bias" because we are forced to deal with the loud ones, who disparage us and try to press their theocratic agenda into our lives. Wait... do you mean the fundie, or the Harry Potter fans surrounding him? 
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.  (September 21, 2015 at 12:00 pm)TRJF Wrote: "... did you sail across the sun, did you make it to the milky way..." Glad to be of service 
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh (September 20, 2015 at 5:58 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Many of them do... even most of them, I would say. But we have an "observer bias" because we are forced to deal with the loud ones, who disparage us and try to press their theocratic agenda into our lives. Yes, I was about to say the same. Most Christians don't go around preaching to people. But obviously, you only hear from the ones who do.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh 
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
 (September 21, 2015 at 2:30 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(September 21, 2015 at 10:56 am)lkingpinl Wrote: Precisely why my favorite quote is: "Preach the gospel at all times and when necessary use words." Here's a gem from Jesus: Matthew 10:5 (CEV) = "Jesus sent out the twelve apostles with these instructions: Stay away from the Gentiles and don’t go to any Samaritan town." (September 21, 2015 at 4:17 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:(September 21, 2015 at 2:30 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: YES! Saint Francis of Assisi is my favorite saint. He has all the best quotes, too. Hey Wyrd, your posts are always really weird lol.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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