I still get confused on evolution, like when Dawkins talks about natural selection perhaps favoring gay men because they make good uncles, I'm like... what?
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Top misconceptions of Theory of Evolution you had to deal with
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RE: Top misconceptions of Theory of Evolution you had to deal with
March 4, 2016 at 11:46 am
(This post was last modified: March 4, 2016 at 11:48 am by The Grand Nudger.)
LOL, if a population's offspring were better served by gay men due to being better caretakers....then it would. You're confusing homosexuality, likely, with an inability to procreate, consciously or unconsciously, and so it seems like a complete wtf statement.
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March 4, 2016 at 11:46 am
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That is a bit odd.
I don't know much about that, but if indeed extra male guys hanging around the group made themselves useful instead of being stoned to death for being different, that would help them survive. But unless they actually reproduced, that wouldn't make any difference as nothing would be passed on (genetically, anyway). And as far as I know, the chances of being gay don't depend on the sexuality of the parents anyway. So I'm puzzled also. Feel free to send me a private message.
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March 4, 2016 at 11:49 am
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Natural selection doesn;t just work on our genetic inheritence, it also selects among behaviors...which can be out of the blue, learned, or enforced at a social level.
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 (March 4, 2016 at 11:49 am)Rhythm Wrote: Natural selection doesn;t just work on our genetic inheritence, it also selects among behaviors...which can be out of the blue, learned, or enforced at a social level. Ok, that kinda makes sense to me. It's like, I can sort of understand the way evolution works, but not well enough to explain it to a religious person and answer their nonsensical questions.
Me too.Also I don't think Gay people have an evolutionary disadvantage since in this Era..
In this industrial Era I think smart people have an evolutionary advantage since they are the money makers and money is the survival factor of people in this Era.... 
I haven't been through this thread but has anyone mentioned that some people think that evolution has a goal and we are its ultimate end product. I find that annoying.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid. Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.  (March 4, 2016 at 12:40 pm)pool the great Wrote: Me too.Also I don't think Gay people have an evolutionary disadvantage since in this Era.. Except that survival, in general, is not as important as procreation. All organisms have to do to be successful, is to survive until they are old enough to procreate. You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.  RE: Top misconceptions of Theory of Evolution you had to deal with
March 4, 2016 at 1:39 pm
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(March 4, 2016 at 11:42 am)Old Baby Wrote: I still get confused on evolution, like when Dawkins talks about natural selection perhaps favoring gay men because they make good uncles, I'm like... what? Dawkins' claim to fame is his gene centric view of evolution outlined in "The Selfish Gene" and "The extended Phenotype" (though oddly not published in te peer reviewed literature). It roughly goes as follows - a gene which increases the probability that males are homosexual might get passed on more efficiently because it makes sure that its carriers more likely have gay relatives helping with the rearing and do not attempt to kill and replace the offspring with their own. The gene boosting the homosexuality ratio does not need to get passed on by the homosexual individuals themselves to be selected for.
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