20 dead in Orlando gay club shooting

[Brian37]

Just woke up to this news.  Horrible.  Don't know what to say.

Boru

Same shit same asshole NRA lobby.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Apparently he corralled people really quick. There isn't a back way out. If he killed 50, then he was spraying from the get go.

In a close confined space like that, he could do a lot of damage really quickly. Fuck I don't want to even think about it.

I don't know the local laws, but I would be positive that such an arrangement for a public space with that capacity would be illegal.

[Thumpalumpacus]

This was a tweet by Texas Lt. Governor Dan Patrick this morning. I am truly ashamed to be the same species.

https://twitter.com/DanPatrick/status/74...02785?s=09

It links to "Page doesn't exist."

I'm not sure what's in that particular tweet, but I do know that when I find something that is egregiously stupid, I quote it for exactly this reason.

Edit: found it. It sure is tasteless, but hard to say if it was intentional, or simply doing one's Internet work before catching up on the day's news.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

I'm wondering how the fuck did an apparently "lone" gunman manage to storm a nightclub full of people?

Like surely wouldn't everyone just pounce on him or sneak up behind him and smash a bottle over his head or something?

Something seems off to me. This doesn't seem like something a lone gunman could pull off, at least without low key help.

Excellent point.  It's more difficult to kill a lot of people if they are all in a bunch because the bodies block the bullets.  The best option is to charge the shooter even though you might get killed doing it but you're being shot at anyway.  It would distract him long enough for other people to swarm him.   Once you start running away you're more likely to get killed because the shooter can focus on you as a specific target.  

The hilarious thing is that the killer had been identified as a nut several years ago.  The NSA is supposed to be spying on everybody and the guy was yakking with known terrorists on the other side of the world.  Maybe instead of banning guns it's time to fire the dummies at the NSA for their inefficiency.  

A local Florida nutty iman had been yakking about killing gays as an act of mercy.

"Florida: Muslim speaker says killing gays is act of “compassion”"
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/04/flori...compassion

Some muslims like the idea of becoming martyrs because it's like winning the cosmic lottery.  They get to intercede for 70 family members to get them into paradise.  That's why so few muslims seldom condemn such acts of terrorism.  They get into paradise because some nut died killing a lot of people and put in a good word for them with Allah.  It's a self-reinforcing death cult. 

Now as usual all of the nervous Nellies want to ban guns.  It's easier to ban ammo.  Put the commercial ammo makers out of business and regulate ammo for use by the military and the thug cops.  People would still have their guns and once their ammo is used up their guns are nothing more than clubs.

Meanwhile, as of this minute, 5 people were shot dead and 28 others suffered gun shots this weekend in Chicago.  http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/map-chi...une-10-13/

Everyone and his brother will whine over the people who got shot in Florida while ignoring the terrorism in Chicago.

Remember: John McCain demands that we arm ISIS.  
"John McCain Circa 2013 “We should arm ISIS”"
http://archives.bluenationreview.com/joh...-arm-isis/

So if ISIS members are here John McCain wants them to be fully armed so that it will be a fair fight.

[Regina]

The hilarious thing is that the killer had been identified as a nut several years ago.  The NSA is supposed to be spying on everybody and the guy was yakking with known terrorists on the other side of the world.  Maybe instead of banning guns it's time to fire the dummies at the NSA for their inefficiency. 

That's not so shocking. How many times has it come out, after the fact, that the Islamist was already known to the intelligence agencies and the police? Happens all the time, and it still frustrates me whenever I hear it, because it means many of these attacks could easily have been prevented.

[zebo-the-fat]

I do not understand why a civilized country would allow it's citizens to own firearms, it seems to me that it is just asking for trouble and reading about a mass killing every few months proves it. America is too shit scared to dump the guns, a nation of cowards.


Sorry if that offends you, but better offended than shot

[Pat Mustard]

It is an absolute myth liberals want to ban every single gun.

I don't know anyone no matter how far right than believes that the left wants to take every single gun.

Well you should have a few words with the NRA then, shouldn't you? Because that is exactly their position.

[Thumpalumpacus]

I do not understand why a civilized country would allow it's citizens to own firearms, it seems to me that it is just asking for trouble and reading about a mass killing every few months proves it. America is too shit scared to dump the guns, a nation of cowards.


Sorry if that offends you, but better offended than shot

You're entitled to your overbroad generalizations, so no, I for one am not offended.

[KevinM1]

I do not understand why a civilized country would allow it's citizens to own firearms, it seems to me that it is just asking for trouble and reading about a mass killing every few months proves it. America is too shit scared to dump the guns, a nation of cowards.


Sorry if that offends you, but better offended than shot  

There are an estimated 300 or so million firearms in the public sphere, many (most?) purchased legally.  Furthermore, we have Constitutional protections against illegal search and seizure in addition to the current established right to bear arms.  Banning guns and taking them from the people simply won't happen.  Not without bloodshed, anyway.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

I do not understand why a civilized country would allow it's citizens to own firearms, it seems to me that it is just asking for trouble and reading about a mass killing every few months proves it. America is too shit scared to dump the guns, a nation of cowards.


Sorry if that offends you, but better offended than shot  

They use car bombs in other places that restrict guns.  Killers are gonna kill.