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RE: The problem with prayer.
July 25, 2016 at 10:41 pm
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This interpretation of prayer makes it sound more like one of those mantras that cults use to keep the faithful in line and unthinking. Which is - revealing.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: The problem with prayer.
July 25, 2016 at 10:45 pm
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(July 25, 2016 at 10:38 pm)bennyboy Wrote: (July 25, 2016 at 10:21 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: Again, prayer isn't meant to be for your wants that don't align with GOD. It is keep up in remembrance of GOD's will. What's the point of it. Why do I need to "keep up in remembrance of GOD's will", when I could happily use the time walking my dogs, playing with my family, or taking a good nap? What's the point of prayer? To keep what is right close in mind, and as such, close at hand.
No one said to not play with your children or not walk your dog.
Some can easily be lead astray by their own desires.
Prayer helps to both show GOD that though you may not always abide, that you do strive to, and also, to keep one occupied with good acts, deeds, and words, as opposed to those things unbeneficial to any, ultimately.
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RE: The problem with prayer.
July 25, 2016 at 10:50 pm
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(July 25, 2016 at 10:45 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: Prayer helps to both show GOD that though you may not always abide, that you do strive to, and also, to keep one occupied with good acts, deeds, and words, as opposed to those things unbeneficial to any, ultimately. Since God already knows my future, in what sense is it in my best interest to ". . . show GOD that though you may not always abide, that you do strive to, and also, to keep one occupied with good acts, deeds, and words, as opposed to those things unbeneficial to any, ultimately." What's in it for me? Can I change my God-known destiny by prayer, or can I not?
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RE: The problem with prayer.
July 25, 2016 at 11:33 pm
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(July 25, 2016 at 10:45 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: Some can easily be lead astray by their own desires.
Prayer helps to both show GOD that though you may not always abide, that you do strive to, and also, to keep one occupied with good acts, deeds, and words, as opposed to those things unbeneficial to any, ultimately. Some can be easily led astray by their own desires, not the least of which being a desire for certainty and assurance where there is none. 
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: The problem with prayer.
July 26, 2016 at 3:28 am
(July 25, 2016 at 10:40 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: (July 24, 2016 at 4:20 am)Godschild Wrote: Because I know God
I, on the other hand, have never met the cunt. But if I ever had the displeasure of meeting him I'd twat the bastard.
You will at judgment and you will be on your knees confessing that Christ truly is Savior and Lord.
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: The problem with prayer.
July 26, 2016 at 4:10 am
(July 26, 2016 at 3:28 am)Godschild Wrote: (July 25, 2016 at 10:40 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: I, on the other hand, have never met the cunt. But if I ever had the displeasure of meeting him I'd twat the bastard.
You will at judgment and you will be on your knees confessing that Christ truly is Savior and Lord.
GC
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RE: The problem with prayer.
July 26, 2016 at 5:32 am
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(July 25, 2016 at 11:33 pm)Rhythm Wrote: (July 25, 2016 at 10:45 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: Some can easily be lead astray by their own desires.
Prayer helps to both show GOD that though you may not always abide, that you do strive to, and also, to keep one occupied with good acts, deeds, and words, as opposed to those things unbeneficial to any, ultimately. Some can be easily led astray by their own desires, not the least of which being a desire for certainty and assurance where there is none.
Ding! Ding! fucking Ding! we have a winner! We're done now! Turn the internet off!
(That's what I call brutal honesty) But I'm sure the irony will do a low flyby and be quickly forgotten.
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RE: The problem with prayer.
July 26, 2016 at 5:50 am
(July 25, 2016 at 10:45 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: [...]
Prayer helps to both show GOD that though you may not always abide, that you do strive to, and also, to keep one occupied with good acts, deeds, and words, as opposed to those things unbeneficial to any, ultimately.[...]
So you're basically saying - muttering to yourself is meant to be both a way to suck up to your imaginary overlord/sky-daddy and to keep you from wanking yourself into severe dehydration? It's a sad, sad life you must be living - I'll bet you can't wait to go to heaven... where you'll spend eternity sucking up to your overlord/sky-daddy and trying to keep yourself from wanking... 
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
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RE: The problem with prayer.
July 26, 2016 at 7:08 am
(July 26, 2016 at 5:50 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote: (July 25, 2016 at 10:45 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: [...]
Prayer helps to both show GOD that though you may not always abide, that you do strive to, and also, to keep one occupied with good acts, deeds, and words, as opposed to those things unbeneficial to any, ultimately.[...]
So you're basically saying - muttering to yourself is meant to be both a way to suck up to your imaginary overlord/sky-daddy and to keep you from wanking yourself into severe dehydration? It's a sad, sad life you must be living - I'll bet you can't wait to go to heaven... where you'll spend eternity sucking up to your overlord/sky-daddy and trying to keep yourself from wanking... [emoji14] I do not believe in a traditional heaven.
And prayer helps me to keep all sorts of things in mind, from "not wanking it", to doing good without want of reward or attainment in return.
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RE: The problem with prayer.
July 26, 2016 at 7:09 am
(July 25, 2016 at 11:33 pm)Rhythm Wrote: (July 25, 2016 at 10:45 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: Some can easily be lead astray by their own desires.
Prayer helps to both show GOD that though you may not always abide, that you do strive to, and also, to keep one occupied with good acts, deeds, and words, as opposed to those things unbeneficial to any, ultimately. Some can be easily led astray by their own desires, not the least of which being a desire for certainty and assurance where there is none. I agree, some can.
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