Another way of looking at depression

[brewer]

Sorry, double post.

[Cyberman]

Does it involve stuttering?

[brewer]

Does it involve stuttering?

Nope, just ocd repetitiveness.

Nope, just ocd repetitiveness.

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rept

There, got it.

[robvalue]

Having a positive attitude is certainly helpful, for almost anything. I try really hard to keep positive, and it does make a difference. This is worlds apart from "snapping out of it" and other such silly phrases, which may as well say, "I don't understand your condition at all".

Sorry...possible over share haha

Also, I still totally agree with the point you were making LFC

You can't talk yourself out of depression and you can't just decide to be ok.

It's totally fine, thanks for sharing I'm glad you did. I think it's really healthy, especially where depression is concerned. I think it also helps others, to realize they're not the only ones going through these experiences.

[Edwardo Piet]

Does it involve stuttering?

Nope, just ocd repetitiveness.

Nope, just ocd repetitiveness.

rept

rept

There, got it.

Sounds like what I had 7 years of.

Which one is that? The exo or the endo? Never heard of either.

ETA: Sounds EXACTLY like what I had 7 years of. And still get sometimes -- only far far far far milder -- when I'm at my worst.

[LadyForCamus]

That's the entire thing about clinical depression, EP.  It has nothing to do with choice or rational thought.  Just like you can't talk yourself out of experiencing a delusion or a hallucination, you can't talk yourself out of depression.  The emotions blossom like horrible fireworks; uninvited and completely uncontrollable.  It hijacks your brain and eats away at your personality.  It is a mental illness.  It's not the same thing as just "having a bad attitude" or, "being a negative nancy."  

I've become fairly good at talking myself out of hallucinations or delusions or whatever is actually is that happens to me. I did several months of group therapy for learning just this technique. Not the we all sit around and share our problems group therapy. Actually...I'm not even really sure why it was in a group. We all met every Tuesday and we practiced a few other techniques for different PTSD triggers as well but mostly we focused on this...day dreaming as I like to call it. I suppose if you live someplace really dangerous it wouldn't be a good option for you, but you basically live on the assumption that anything really terrifying isn't real. So you stay calm, assess your situation, and look for proof. At that time the snow was a huge help for me (so huge that I slept with my bedroom window cracked open the whole winter) I lived with my ex husband in South Georgia so if there was snow that meant my ex husband wasn't really there. I've come a long way since the days when "there's snow outside my window" was a saving grace.

Not an over-share at all, Losty!  That's actually fascinating.  Fighting back is all that we can do, and you are courageous for working so hard at it.  

[Edwardo Piet]

Losty inspires me a lot.

[robvalue]

Me too

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Which one is that? The exo or the endo? Never heard of either.

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It refers to the source of depression. Other references are external vs internal, situational vs biological.

[abaris]

It refers to the source of depression. Other references are external vs internal, situational vs biological.

I guess it's situational in my case. Mostly. Without getting into details, that's why I said I'm aware of all the contributing factors but can't do anything about them.